Alaska Governor Sarah Palin–Shock and Awe

Shock and Awe has just entered the 2008 Presidential campaign in the form of Arizona Senator John McCain choosing Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his Vice Presidential nominee.

The coldest state has brought America the hottest Governor.

The Tygrrrr Express arrived in Minneapolis, Minnesota, for the 2008 Republican Convention. The Chicago Cannonball is joining me just long enough to go to the great Mall of America. Then I will get down to the business of blogging from the 2008 version of “Repub Hub.” It will be a fabulous experience thanks to John McCain choosing the phenomenal Sarah Palin as his Vice Presidential Nominee.

First I would like to give credit to the news organizations that put out the headline that is bound to spawn a million jokes by the adolescent male population, of which I am often accused of being a part of. “McCain taps Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.” My desire not to have the Secret Service shut down my blog prevents me from commenting further, although she did make my list of the “Top 120 political yummy bouncies.”

As hot as she is, make no mistake about it. She is tough, smart, and a solid choice for Vice President based on her ability to govern effectively. Before offering some thoughts on Governor Palin, kudos need to be given out to John McCain. I have repeatedly stated that I am “often wrong, but never in doubt.” My advice to John McCain, which was never solicited or accepted, was that he go for the ultra safe choice.

My dream choice was Rudy Giuliani, but my realistic choice was Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty. Tall, good hair, and inoffensive…safe, boring, and not harmful. This is not John McCain. He took all of his poker chips and pushed them to the center of the table. He is now “all in.”

Perhaps a guy that spent 5 1/2 years as a POW is just not going to be afraid to take risks. Sarah Palin is the epitome of a riverboat gambler choice. It also might very well work.

The minus side includes that her beauty might work against her. Women say they want to support other women, but they hate beauty queens. Sarah Palin is a former pageant girl. Of course this is not her fault, but women are a jealous bunch.

Another minus is that she does not have foreign policy experience. Then again, she has more experience than Barack Obama. Governors, unlike Senators, actually do things. That is why Senators rarely make it to the White House. She is an executive, and has actually balanced a budget. Obama is a talker. She is a doer.

Her pluses are numerous. For one, the base loves her. The base has been dispirited lately. They are elated today. This woman is so pro-NRA that the nickname of her youngest child is “Trig,” as in “Trigger.”

Another plus is that in a year when the republican brand is toxic due to perceptions of incompetence and corruption , Sarah Palin is a very competent executive who has rooted out corruption in her home state. She even took on republicans, filing indictments, and decimating the old boy network. She has popularity levels in the stratosphere at home. Obama is a rock star for his image. She is a rock star for her actual accomplishments.

Sarah Palin brings me one worry. When one makes their name as a corruption fighting crusader, they had better be squeaky clean. Bill Clinton was able to escape his corruption intact because people had such low expectations for him from an ethical standpoint. He could crawl over the bar. People do not mind those that engage in bad deeds. They mind sanctimoniousness and hypocrisy. Eliot Spitzer was the epitome of self righteousness, and his corruption brought him down. Sarah Palin had better have her ethical house in spotless order, because the spotlight is about to shine brightly and intensely upon her.

Sarah Palin is about shock and awe because the shock value comes in the form of her being chosen. In the age of 24 hour to the millisecond news cycle, keeping secrets is not easy to do. I walked in this morning, hit my internet button, saw the front headline, and picked my jaw off of the floor.

The awe part is that she is as inspiring from a success standpoint as she is physically beautiful. I track what words people type in to search blogs when I look at my own blog. The words “Sarah Palin” in the same sentence as some “suggestive terms” were typed in abundance. I suspect that the young male college vote is now in play. People will claim sexism, but admiring a woman for her beauty in addition to her intelligence is not sexism. Ignoring all other factors and relying solely on beauty is where the slippery erotic slope comes in. Does Sarah Palin look like the naughty librarian in those videos that every guy pretends to know nothing about? Do we want her to pull the ribbon out of the bun and let her hair flow like the Vogue cover? Of course.

Yet this is not about modeling lingerie, or about being impersonated on Saturday Night Live by the similarly sexy looking Tina Fey. It is about leading the free world. She is solidly and unapologetically conservative. She could be the next Margaret Thatcher, only (with all due respect to the deeply beloved Iron Lady) sexier.

This is not about her bottom, which some reporters tactlessly commented on. It is about the bottom line, which is cutting taxes, cutting burdensome regulation, enhancing liberty and freedom, and killing terrorists. She is a hockey mom, target shoots, and eats moose stew. She also is a devoted mother to her five children, including the youngest child that is afflicted with Downs Syndrome. For more information about Sarah Palin, several articles have been written.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NWIyZDUxOGE5MGQxNWI5ZDhkYmQ2OTU0N2M2ZTI5NzA=

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/29/AR2008082901112.html?hpid=topnews

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/2008/08/mccain_introduces_palin_at_day.html

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/08/29/palin-for-america-a-true-conservative/

http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/7157b0d1-1b89-4ddf-b442-5cdc63dec2b6

Below are some of her finest comments from her introductory press conference.

“I did not get into politics to do the safe and easy things.”

“We are expected to govern with integrity, and good will, and conviction.”

“As the mother of one of the troops, and as the commander of Alaska’s National Guard, John McCain is the kind of man I want in a Commander in Chief.”

“Last 9/11, my son enlisted in the Army, and this 9/11 he heads to Iraq.”

As the song “Right Now” by Van Halen played in the background, it was a jolt of fresh air to see how in only 12 hours, the news can switch from an empty speech about nothing to a call for actual leadership and service. This woman will not be afraid of dealing with Iran, Iraq, or Afghanistan. She will not be afraid of taking on republicans when they stray from conservative principles. She certainly will not fear anything as weak as a 21st century post modern liberal.

John McCain hit a home run out the ballpark. Alaska Governor Sarah Palin is our rock star, and she is solid as a rock.

A hero and an executive versus a zero and a legislative gasbag. The republican ticket is set for victory.

eric

48 Responses to “Alaska Governor Sarah Palin–Shock and Awe”

  1. Laree says:

    Eric

    Obama’s propaganda outfit isn’t doing to well and this Palin pick put them in a tail spin.

    http://imustimes.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/msnbc-about-to-blow-up-lol/

  2. parrothead says:

    I told you he would go unconventional and surprise everybody. McCain is not the type to make the safe choice. See my comments to an earlier post comparing her executive experience to Obamas absentee legislative experience

  3. parrothead says:

    one other point about McCain’s experience. He has leadership and management experience as his career did not begin when he entered congress. Little is really talked about his military record other than he was a POW (for 5 1/2 years), but he had a career over 20 years in the Navy and reached the rank of Captain. I know he served as a squadron commander which involved management and supervision, but I personally know little about the rest of his career. I do know you don’t get the rank of Captain in the Navy without some leadership and management tours along the way. Plus the Navy gives extensive training in these areas.

  4. This was nothing but a cynical ploy to garner more of the women’s vote from the dissappointed Clinton constituency. The woman is certainly NOT qualifies to be Vice-President, let alone President. She certainly is NOT more experienced at ANYTHING, let alone foreign policy, then Barack Obama.

    And to that comment you made about the Senate: Why do you hate America?

    JMJ

  5. And Parrot, McCain’s father was a famous Admiral and he comes from a long line of officers. He graduated among the very worst in his class. he would NEVER have made captain were it not for his father, just as your illustrious “president” Bush would NEVER have made it into the Ivy League were it not for his father and lineage.

    C’mon guys. Get real for once.

    JMJ

  6. Micky 2 says:

    “The woman is certainly NOT qualifies to be Vice-President, let alone President. She certainly is NOT more experienced at ANYTHING, let alone foreign policy, then Barack Obama.”

    She has more under the hood than Obama.
    (from previous thread);
    Its pretty bad for you guys when McCains VP pick is actually more qualified than the libs pick for the POTUS.
    In the last 2 years she has been working in an executive capacity while Bambi has been running the trail and voting “present”
    Ontop of the 10 plus years experience she has working in capacities that give her far more decision making skills than Obama.
    Hes been at work maybe 145 days out of his whole time in government.
    I mean you talk about getting real ?
    For the last 2 years hes been on the road or voting present almost 75% of the time.

    And there you go again with your ridicilous exagerations by saying; “She certainly is NOT more experienced at ANYTHING, let alone foreign policy, then Barack Obama.
    I’m telling you man, you guys got it backwards.
    Biden should actually be your front man

    ANYTHING ???
    Has Obama governed a state or run a city or mayored a city with an 80% approval rating ?
    Is on the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission and actually has executive experience.
    And no dirty laundry.
    But of course I’m sure its just a matter of time before you guys whip up something tittilating and rumorous.

  7. Micky, you’ve got to be kidding. The woman has a bachelors in journalism from Idaho! One of my pet cats have one of those! She was mayor of a a backwater town in a back water state! She’s barely been governor for a year and a half of a state with a population of less than 700,000! Heck, that’s one neighborhood in Manhatten!

    She’s a JOKE! You guys should be ashamed of yourselves! This is the most irresponsible veep pick in US history!

    JMJ

  8. Paleo-Pat says:

    Uh, Dude, Read:

    http://www.politicalbyline.com/2008/08/29/something-everyone-should-read-about-sarah-palin/

    If the G.O.P. puts this woman up there in the White House. America will be in deep trouble. She couldn’t not even run the town that she Mayor of.

    She wanted a sports arena to preserve her legacy, and instead of buying the land, she tried to get it under eminent domain and the land owner took the city to the supreme court and the city LOST. Now that city is so damn broke, that they have cut back to just basic services, because the town lost so much money in the lawsuit.

    This woman is an idiot and does not belong in national office at all.

  9. Micky 2 says:

    He he.
    Obama is the joke.
    All the hype, , money, platitudes, promises, celebrity,flash and spectacles and he’s got less time actually running anything in government than Palin.
    (BESIDES HIS MOUTH)

    But really, I’ve seen reporters ask people on the street randomly what accomplishments they knew of that Obama was responsable for.
    And 9 out of ten people couldnt give one example.

    You really are a hypocrite.
    Because when we had this debate about Obamas lack of experience you said it didnt matter because he had excellent judgement and vision.

    Well buddy, suck it up, cuz it works both ways and you cant have it both ways.
    The strategy on McCains pick is pure genius.

    And the fact is this.
    She has more executive experience than bambi.

  10. parrothead says:

    Jersey,

    Where do you come off claiming I hate my country. It was uncalled for, inaccurate, and just plain offensive. I have never and will never question anybody’s patriotism or love of country. Although the lefe loves ot claim that when their judgement is questioned.

    My only comments about the Senate were twofold. First Obama has been on the campaign trail since very soon after he was sworn into office, meaning he has been absent most of the time. Second there is a difference between legislative and executive experience which are different. Just as there are differences in the business world between staff experience, program management, line management and supervision. They all require DIFFERENT skill sets. I am not saying they are not all necessary just that one does not necessarily qualify you for the other. Senators are not solely responisble for anything they do. All actions are a result of a vote of several people. In an executive role you make several decisions which are ultimately yours and yours alone. That does not say that one is better than the other just different. Being a great Senator does not mean you will be a great president or governor. Similarly being a great governor or president doesnt mean you will make a great senator. the skill sets are very different.

    You owe me a sincere apology for that crack Jersey.

  11. Paleo-Pat sums this woman right up – she’s vindictive and covetous. The only reason she took down the Murkowskis is because Frank didn’t give her that vacant senate seat. The only reason she fired all those employees is because they wouldn’t fire her brother-in-law while he was divorcing her sister. She’s a pscyho. She makes Hillary Clitnon look like a good natured Brownie.

    Parrot,

    “Where do you come off claiming I hate my country.”

    I didn’t. That was a tongue in cheek jab at our good host for belittling the United States Senate. Jefferson was wrong (as rare as he was) about the Senate when he feared they’d be just another version of the 18th century House of Lords. In the end, the Senate has been an effective voice of sanity for the most part throughout our history. They are not “takers.” They are thankfully, usually, sensible “doers.” The American Senator is a vital role player in our government and if were not for our popular stupidity and pathetic political ignorance, more Senators could be Presidents.

    I don’t owe you anything. I didn’t aim that “crack,” at you – and even if I did, I still wouldn’t owe you a d@mned thing aside for your service to our country, which, by the way, I will gladly pay with my taxes if only more of those taxes went to you. John McCain who some ten times voted against vet benefits, albethey loaded with some pork, can’t say the same.

    Micky,

    Obama has a generation of public service under his belt. Can’t you at least be honest about that? C’mon man! You should be a better man than that!

    JMJ

  12. Micky 2 says:

    Soup kitchens dont count Jersey.

    If that return is the best you got then you guys know you must be in trouble.
    Oh, yea, lets not forget all the other crap that he does have under his belt.

  13. Soup kitchens??? You really don;’t know anything about Obama, do you? Typical con – all opinion, no knowledge.

    JMJ

  14. Micky 2 says:

    I’m gonna drop a note in Gods box for Louisiana. All additional prayers for these folks would be welcome, I’m sure.

    I dont want to hear any partisan BDS casting blame kinda BS during or after this storm.
    Its clearly evident that everyone is doing everything they can

  15. Micky 2 says:

    You know what Jersey ?
    You really oughta trim down your childish overstatements and this superiority complex of yours. While you’re at it try to pick up a sense of humor along the way.

    Any honest person who has read this blog for a year or so knows that its fact that I am the one who has consistanly blasted you for never having anything more than opinion and a superiority complex that demads we all take you word on things because you are oh so wise.
    You saying that I consist of all opinion and no knowledge is just a flat out lie.

    So far you have not been able to counter the fact that Palkin has more experience in an executive capacity than Obama.
    You have not been able to answer to the double standard I pointed out that libs say Obama did not need experience because he was so wise and would make great decisions due to his wonderful sense of judgement.

    And now the meme is in reverse and you guys look like (are) hypocrits for accusing Palin of being inexperienced when you said it didnt matter in Obamas case.

    Your last comment was just about as weak and unsubstantial as the one before it.
    Which can only mean that you really have no plausable arguement against my point.

    You obviously have no knowledge of my knowledge.
    Only an opinion that I have none.

  16. Barack Obama has an outstanding resume, plenty of experience, and a proven track record of selfless service, and yet you cons bash him as if he were some selfish, elitist, unqualified child. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.

    JMJ

  17. Micky 2 says:

    Awww, were sorry.
    I dont see what any of that has to do with my last post.

    But.
    The same applies to Palin.
    Was she picked to bring over undecideds, women, pee’d off Hillary supporters ?
    Yea !
    And why the hell not ?
    Shes’ got enough executive experience also.
    Not “public service” as you endowed Obama with.
    He really has no experience in governing a system whether its a small town, city, or state.
    He has no executive experience in putting together an administration (campaign administration dont count).
    Shes actually held public office and served more than him.
    Is the most popular governor in the whole country with an 80% approval.
    Quite successful in the private sector, cut wasteful spending in her own party, took on the oil magnates, knows what its like to raise a family, is stable, not a bunch of dirty laundry like Obama.
    And.
    Shes hot !

    Hah.
    McCains VP pick is more qualified than your own presidential candidate !

    I have nothing to be ashamed of buddy.
    As a matter of fact it is you who has disrespected and said some very vile things on this blog about some very decent men.
    Men who are way more ethical and experienced and decortaed than Obama.
    I should be ashamed ?
    The hypocrisy just never ends, does it ?

  18. Micky 2 says:

    Wow !

    I’m sorry to make this personal.
    But this is just too over the top to ignore.

    Jersey McJones calls for us to be ashamed of ourselves for bashing Obama;

    JMJ;
    “Barack Obama has an outstanding resume, plenty of experience, and a proven track record of selfless service, and yet you cons bash him as if he were some selfish, elitist, unqualified child. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.”

    And then he launchs a vile nasty attack like this on a decent woman over at another blog, his blog.

    JMJ;
    “I’d like to know how Palin’s husband, a steel union guy, can be married to the GOP anti-labor Republican whore.”

    Sunday, August 31, 2008 3:35:00 PM

    You sir are a hypocrite and speak through more than one orafice.

    My attempts at civility with you are over.
    I have tried, but you obviously would rather go the reckless self indulgent childlike path.
    I do not take what you said personally. But I will not associate with someone who says one thing and does another.

  19. I replied to you a while ago bu I guess it didn’t take, so I’ll write it again.

    Micky, it is really uncool of you to post stuff from my blog onto this blog. My blog has zero rules, it’s raucus, rude, and filled with profanity. That’s the way I like it. When I post comments here I maintain a higher level of decorum as per the wishes of Eric.

    Very, very uncool, Micky.

    When we’re on this blog we should show a little repsect and keep our comments related to Erics posts, not mine.

    As for Palin, I stand by what I said, but I would never have said it that way here. I couldn’t imagine being a union man married to a Republican woman.

    JMJ

  20. Micky 2 says:

    I dont care.
    Theres an old saying Jersey.
    No matter where you go, there you are.
    And it doesnt matter if you’re on the moon or in my living room you should practice what you preach.

    Eric has a liberal /democratic girlfriend. And the two of them seem to have sufficient imagination and understanding to work it out without being as small minded about it as you are.

    You come over here and act all high and mighty and scold us for attacking Obama on legitimate issues and say we should be ashamed of ourselves and then you turn around and call his opposition, a perfectly decent woman a whore ?

    So if you said it here on this blog would your choice of words been “prostitute” ? Hooker ? Puta, Sell out ?

    You dont know the inner workings of their personal life so yes, no imagination, even a humomgous one like yours could ever figure it out.

    I worked iron for 3 years and got a good look at how some guys get paid for doing absolutley nothing while others busted their a$$es.
    I’ve seen how they drive up the cost of labor.
    I had no shame being a part of the union because I WORKED for my money.
    He may well have a lot invested in his career and to give it up at this point could very well cost him a huge pension.
    You dont know.
    So wise up and stop being so quick to spit on an obviously decent woman.

    Stand by what you said, please do.
    Its only fitting of the hypocrisy we see on the left time and time again.

    People pull stuff from my blog and post it everywhere, thats what its there for.
    It reflects me no matter where I go, because there I am.

    In your case if it was some monumental inspiring speech and eveyone was tagging it and linking to it you would probably love the attention and credit.
    But noooo, in this case your uglyness got exposed and now its “uncool “?

  21. Eagle 6 says:

    Eric, You pegged the majority of the key points… she’s a leader, beautiful, experienced except in foreign affairs (as is the Dem choice), and a high gamble for the very point you made: ethics. It didn’t take too long for the story of her involvement in the Anchorage Police Chief’s termination… there was a story in the Washington Post a while back…the photo also shows a dear friend of mine who is now the Police Chief there – I’ll see whether I can get some scoops from him. Although I knew Robbie when he was a dark-haired demon on the football field, he still looks as if he can bench press 300 lbs…but he’s just a great big grin of a guy with a twinkle in his eye, and if the governor lacks integrity, I don’t think he’ll be in his position long.
    As far as McCain’s dad being an Admiral, it certainly helps one’s career, but Captain in the Navy is like a Bird Colonel in the Army – there’s some luck and “who you know” involved, but the steps just getting to the position of being considered are quite stringent and time-tested. In other words, it’s not like the Civil War in which people were named certain ranks.

    It will be interesting to see how this integrity/ethics issue plays out – we all know that politicians on all sides use their power to influence decisions, but when it gets too personal, such as Gov Palkin using influence to get back at a brother-in-law or Sen Obama using his position to secure his wife a $300+ K job, we’ve crossed the line.

  22. Eagle,

    I don’t think Palin’s, like Obama’s, “scandals” have all that much gas in ’em, so to speak. What she did may have been wrong, in that she may not have followed proper procedure and maybe put her own interests ahead of the public, but I don’t think, at least at this point, that she broke any laws or even Alaskan ethics rules for the executive. but we shall see soon enough. Even her involvement in the downfall of the Murkowski/Stevens/Young Alaskan version of Tammany hall smacks of her acting purely in self interest, though the result seems positive for all. All the same, it’s very hard to get a complete picture of this woman. Her experience, education, and overall credentials are extremely limited. She’s a frighteningly irresponsible choive to be VP for a 71 year old president and only serves to confirm the suspision of many that McCain is more a lunatic than a “maverick.”

    As for McCain’s being a captain, as you said, that really doesn’t count fopr all that much in the Navy and yet even with his famed story and pedigree, that was the best he could do. And that’s quite telling.

    Micky,

    My use of that derogatory was related to Palin’s willingness to embrace a union man in matrimony while hopping on the anti-labor GOP train for her ride to the top. Get it?

    JMJ

  23. Eagle 6 says:

    Jersey, I am chuckling… I meant that it is fairly tough to make Captain (Bird Colonel in the Army)…regardless of background. The 5 plus years as POW pretty much stripped him of opportunity to make General Officer…and not many Mavericks make General (or Admiral). Agreed on the “questions” of both Sen and Gov…I just saw something yesterday about Palin’s older daughter being missing with Mono for several months, and “Mom Palin” not looking pregnant, and pop goes the baby…Wow!

    Being a heartbeat away is, indeed, a huge responsibility. From where I am, the vote still goes to a heartbeat away versus the heartbeat of O!! There’s something about a woman with a gun…when it’s not aimed at me…

  24. parrothead says:

    Eagle thanks for emphasizing my point about becoming a Navy Captain (far higher then the rank of Captain in the other services. You just don’t get there without the ability to command. In that role you usually have significant responsibility under your authority. So my point was that McCain has more than legislative experience and his military background is far greater than just his years as a POW, which is all anybody wants to talk about.

    I also get tired of the belittling of University of Idaho as if it is a substandard school. Many of us cannot afford (either too poor for tuition or too “rich” for scholarships) to go to Ivy League schools so we get perfectly good educations at smaller ABET accredited schools. In fact most of the time in those smaller schools for undergraduate work you get a better education because you actually are taught by professors not grad students. As the professors spend most of their time with grad students or getting published. Then again if you are a republican and graduate from a “good school” its just because of connections. Biden who finished 86 out of 95 (plagiarizing to do that well) in law school is supposedly a genius. Of course Ted Kennedy and Al Gore got no benefits from their lineage. They are just geniuses evne though their academic records are pretty poor. Give me a break.

  25. parrothead says:

    Eagle thanks for emphasizing my point about becoming a Navy Captain (far higher then the rank of Captain in the other services. You just don’t get there without the ability to command. In that role you usually have significant responsibility under your authority. So my point was that McCain has more than legislative experience and his military background is far greater than just his years as a POW, which is all anybody wants to talk about.

    I also get tired of the belittling of University of Idaho as if it is a substandard school. Many of us cannot afford (either too poor for tuition or too “rich” for scholarships) to go to Ivy League schools so we get perfectly good educations at smaller ABET accredited schools. In fact most of the time in those smaller schools for undergraduate work you get a better education because you actually are taught by professors not grad students. As the professors spend most of their time with grad students or getting published. Then again if you are a republican and graduate from a “good school” its just because of connections. Biden who finished 86 out of 95 (plagiarizing to do that well) in law school is supposedly a genius. Of course Ted Kennedy and Al Gore got no benefits from their lineage. They are just geniuses even though their academic records are pretty poor. Give me a break.

  26. Do you guys have any idea how misogynistically adolescent you sound when you point ot how “beatiful” she is or how a “woman with a gun” gets your testosterone up???

    And McCain spent over twenty years in the navy! That’s over 15 years of NOT being a POW! He graduated 894 out of 899 from Annapolis! What is it with you cons these days – it’s as if being dopey is the prime requisite for holding higher office! What’s the matter with you guys? What? If someone is literate, educated, well-spoken, what? Are they elite? Are they snobs because they’re not moronic, underachievers who owe everything they have to their parents? What kind of people have you reprublicans become???

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – the GOP sold it’s soul when it took Middle America.

    JMJ

  27. blacktygrrrr says:

    All,

    Due to technical difficulties, my column from yesterday never got published. I just found this out now. So there are 2 posts today.

    eric

  28. If McCain had not been shot down over Nam, he would be nobody today. He owes his entire to career to being an “American Hero” and I’m sick of it. Wesley Clarke was right: “I don’t think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president.” And his command? He hardly commanded anyone ever! He was a famously bad pilot! He wrecked 5 planes! He was known more for partying than anything else! Any of this sound familiar? Do you guys just crave failure or what?

    I’m sorry, but I think you guys just have plain ol’ lousy judgement of character.

    JMJ

  29. Micky 2 says:

    JMJ;
    “My use of that derogatory was related to Palin’s willingness to embrace a union man in matrimony while hopping on the anti-labor GOP train for her ride to the top. Get it?”

    Yea, I get it.
    Its OK to bash Palin and call her a whore, but we should be shamed for criticising/bashing Obama.
    I would hardly compare that expediency, if it were true to all the rides Obama has taken and is on

    You still dont know the details of their relationship or what his pension status may be.
    He could of been a steel man long before he met her. Most iron workers/steel workers are part of a lineage, who knows.
    I might be wrong, maybe there is a double standard on her part, I’ll investigate and see whats up.

    Also, it was never answerd as to how the left admitts to Obamas inexperience by saying his judgement, wisdom and character will make up for the lack of it.
    The libs have screamed this all over the placxe “So what if he doesnt have experience ? His judgement will make up for it ”

    But yet in Palins case the same standard doesnt apply to her.
    She has shown in the past to have excellent judgement and character.
    And she actually has more experience in the execitive field than Obama.
    He may of been in government for 7 years, but not in a capacity where he would be making managerial decions relative to administrations that govern.
    If he hasnt been campaigning hes ben voting “present”most of the time
    Just doin what I do man. Pointing out the hypocrisy and the double standards of the left.
    ————————————————————————————-

    The baby”Trig” is Sara Palins son.
    Even the KOS criticised her for flying pregnat with Trig while other stories on the left claim that Trig is her grandson.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/1/43354/85134

    Also in this story its made clear and evident by statements from her physicians and OBGYN and the airlines that the baby is hers.

    http://www.adn.com/front/story/382864.html

    This is ridiculous.
    The best argument being thrown against Palin is that she has kids.
    Ya know, if she didnt have kids you morons would be complaining about her being out of contact with real American households.
    All these gossip hounds are doing is exposing themselves as pathetic little witch hunters.
    The way they’re all acting its as if she was consorting with people who tried to blow up the capital and the Pentagon, or as if she was a member of a church that damns America saying it purposely introduced aids to the black man while it deserved 911.

  30. Micky 2 says:

    here comes the misogyny again.

    “Do you guys have any idea how misogynistically adolescent you sound when you point ot how “beatiful” she is or how a “woman with a gun” gets your testosterone up???”

    What humogous load of over reactive ridiculously hypersensative crap !!!!!!!!

    Good God almighty , thats just about as absurd as it gets.

    how freaking ridiculous !

    We cant adfmire a womans beuty or the acessories she wears that excite us without being misogynitic.

    And you think we should be ashamed ?

    NOPE ! Sorry !

    Im misogynistic for thinking Angelina Jolie was hot in Mr. and Mrs Smith when she was brandishing a shotgun ?

    I guess James Bond flicks are a big no no for you you, huh Jersey ?
    So… so… very laughable

  31. parrothead says:

    McCAin in fact was a Squadron Commander. That is command whether you want to admit it or not.

    Why is it any Republican who rises to prominence is automatically an idiot yet democrats with poor academic records who do so (Biden, Kerry, Gore, Bradley) are geniuses. The fact that Obama is well educated and literate isn’t the problem. However Sarah Palin is also literate, educated, well-spoken and you call here a moron. Please how hypocritical can you get?

  32. Eagle 6 says:

    Jersey, I’m not sure how many years Sen McCain served in the Navy – I think 22 years… it generally takes about 20 years to make 06, whether one is a POW or not. Wrecking 5 planes is like wrecking 5 tanks or HMWVs or helicopters – it means he was either “training as you fight” or in the fight…and the perfumed prince Clarke is right – being a POW doesn’t qualify one for being president. Being a Squadron Commander, a POW leader, and a leader in the Senate offer those qualifications. Several great leaders did not do well in the world of academia, but that doesn’t diminish their leadership or intelligence. Patton was a 5 year man, and I wasn’t doing so well academically when I left West Point, but my priorities 35 years ago were a little different from today’s! When one graduates from a military academy such as USAF, USNA, or USMA, one is highly trained in many disciplines – not just book larnin. Parrothead and Micky have this one nailed – your sabre is rattling Jersey – but we have you in an L shaped ambush!

  33. Did you hear about her daughter? I wonder if Sarah gave her 17 yeard old daughter a “choice” to have that kid or not… And we’re all still wondering whether “Trig” is Palin’s or her daughter’s…

    Hmmm…

    Good ol’ Republican Christian Family Values in action!

    I really don’t know how literate or educated Palin is. Neither do you. She’s a new commodity on the scene. Only time will tell us what she’s really all about.

    Now, Biden, say what you will about him, is a self-made man who was one of the youngest senators ever to be elected. He’s a brilliant orator and has a long, long history as an influential and accomplished legislator. I’m not going to defend Kerry or Gore as I’m not a big fan of either of them, although I give him a ton of credit for the Winter Soldier hearings. That took tremendous guts and character. Bill Bradley, say what you will, was a Rhodes Scholar on top of being the consummate athlete – not an easy task. He was a fantastic advocate in the legislature for working families and children. He was great senator all in all.

    JMJ

  34. Eagle, I’m not dismissing McCain’s credentials, just putting them into the context here. And Patton? My grandfather served under Patton. He may have been among the great generals, but no serious person ever considered him for president! The man was nuts!

    JMJ

  35. Asnd you guys have me in a what? LOL! Yeah, right. You’ve got a loony running for president, a veep with almost no creds, and the only reason you guys stand at chance in ##!! at taking the White House is because Obama happens to be a black man named Obama!

    I don’t know how you guys even sleep at night, let alone “ambush” anyone.

    JMJ

  36. Micky 2 says:

    “Did you hear about her daughter? I wonder if Sarah gave her 17 yeard old daughter a “choice” to have that kid or not”

    Gee, ya think you got some red meat here huh ?
    If mistake was made on the part of the daughter at least the Palins have the morality to not toss it in a dumpster as you guys would.
    I would think that the same anti abortion values that Palin holds are instilled in her daughter and there was probably no debating it.
    Instead of dodging personal accountability the gorl will deal with her choice.

    “And we’re all still wondering whether “Trig” is Palin’s or her daughter’s…”

    Did you read the post above where I explained this already ?
    Yea, you probably did. But in the interest of spreading dirt you are disengenuous in acting as if the info wasnt given to you so that you can just continue on your slanderous way.

    “Good ol’ Republican Christian Family Values in action!”

    At least they dont act like hypocrites by saying one thing and doing another.
    Christians make mistakes.
    The difference betwen them and you is that they own up to them

    “I really don’t know how literate or educated Palin is. Neither do you. She’s a new commodity on the scene.”

    Thats incredibly ignorant seeing as the scene you’re refering to is only your little world.
    It only takes a momentary cursory tour to find out and anyone by now in the last few days could well tell by her appearances, commentaries and reports done on her just how literate and educated she is.
    And how do you know what level of knowledge Eagle has retained on Palin to say that he doesnt know how educated or literate she is ?
    Your presumptive ignorance is amazing.

    “Only time will tell us what she’s really all about.”

    BS.

    Should we then apply the same affordance to Obama ?
    Only time will tell us what hes all about ?
    Palin has a past that is well documented, an impressive resume` and no big secret to anyone.
    She is not some enigma shrouded in smoke and mirrors such as Obama.

    You’re full of it jersey.
    You havent made one decent point on this thread but to make it evident that you’re a hypocrite on more than one issue.

    We are not allowed to bash Obama, but you justify your bashing of Palin.

    When I accused Obama of not having experience you siad his judgement and wisdom would make up for it.
    But when Palin who actually has more experience than Obama is picked, you call her a joke, a loon and a whore and give no credit to her wisdom and judgement as you did Obama.

    You go off into the insanely and ridiculously absurd and call us misogynists because think pretty women with guns are hot.
    That was just… well, cant say it here.

    You actually tried to argue that a squadron commander is not a commander !!

    You have nothing but a presidential candidate that actually has less executive and managerial experience than McCains VP pick.

    Thats a fact

  37. parrothead says:

    Jersey do the math. Her daughter is 5 months pregnant and Trig is 4 months old. Its not POSSIBLE for Trig to be her daughters kid. Get over it, more importantly, even if it was her grandson…who cares and what relevance does it have anyway.

    Biden is a man who talks a lot and says little usually with a condescending smirk. Obama is a brilliant orator, Biden is not. Just like Al Gore is not a brilliant orator. After all Al gore had his clock cleaned in debates by two “idiots,” George Bush and Dan Quayle. The only thing anybody remembers about that VP debate of course is Admiral Stockdale who made them both look good by comparison.

  38. Micky 2 says:

    Oh, and heres another example of self conflicting hypocrisy.
    First you say you dont know enough about the woman, and then right after that say that shes a “looney”

    JMJ;
    “I really don’t know how literate or educated Palin is. Neither do you. She’s a new commodity on the scene. Only time will tell us what she’s really all about.”

    “Asnd you guys have me in a what? LOL! Yeah, right. You’ve got a loony running for president, a veep with almost no creds,”

    Which is it ? and how could you know either way ?

    “and the only reason you guys stand at chance in ##!! at taking the White House is because Obama happens to be a black man named Obama!”

    Oh yea, more hypocrisy.

    He got all this way becasue he was so smart and so qualified.
    (but if he loses its cuz hes black )

  39. Thank God for Gustav, huh guys? LOL!

    Parrot, you’re apparently right about Trig. As to your question, the answer is that it’s very telling of the “Family Values” crowd. I won’t even bother here to get into what it tells…

    Now, I’m not sure how old you are or what debates you’ve ever seen, but I don’t recall anyone with the initials GB or DQ cleaning any clocks in any debate I’ve ever seen or heard.

    And speaking of Quayle and remembrance, I do seem to recall a rather famous line regarding Quayle and JFK. Do you remember that? I’ll never forget it.

    Micky,

    Would you pick this woman as your VP? Yes or no, why?

    JMJ

  40. Micky 2 says:

    Thats like asking me if I would marry your wife.

    Whatever, I certainly wouldnt call her a whore.

    First off, its a ridiculous question . It only applies if I was a candidate.
    She will support McCain just fine, so I’ll defend her.
    If I were the candidate I would pick Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter or maybe Shannen Doherty.

    Palin still out qualifies Obama

  41. “Thats like asking me if I would marry your wife.”

    LOL! The better question is would she marry you! LOL!

    Palin is nothing compared to Obama.

    JMJ

  42. “Thats like asking me if I would marry your wife.”

    LOL! The better question is would she marry you! LOL!

    Palin is nothing compared to Obama.

    JMJ

  43. Micky 2 says:

    You can say that all you want but the stats, facts and resume`s say differently.

    He does not have the executive managerial skill to operate a government administration as she does.
    He has not staffed nor managed an administration to govern even a lemonade stand

    Hypocrisy Jersey.
    You say that you dont know all that much about her , yet you still find it condusive with that limited knowledge to say she is nothing.

    Once agin, you offer nothing but opinion which renders you argument vacant of anything other thanto display yourdouble standardized hypocrisy

  44. Eagle 6 says:

    Jersey, I didn’t mean anything with the “L shaped” ambush other than a tongue-in-cheek barb that represents what an L shaped ambush is!! You probably already know this, but it’s nothing more than a group of stalkers formed in an “L” taking pot shots at someone enters the kill zone… an argument could be made that every time you enter this forum, except for football, you are walking into an L shaped ambush. Having said that, I have to give Eric credit because I have tried to post in a few sites, and because my comments didn’t support the agenda, my posts were ignored.

  45. LOL! I think Eric just deleted one of my comments (I called Haley Barbour a crook like four times in one paragraph!). I guess I went too far! LOL!

    JMJ

  46. Micky 2 says:

    I thought Eagle meant we were painting “L”s on jerseys forehead

  47. parrothead says:

    Yes I do remember the quote but that was Lloyd Bentsen (who looked like the character from Poltergeist) 4 years earlier. Not Al Gore.

  48. Eagle 6 says:

    Good one, Micky…

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