Comments on: From Henry Waxman’s Office to Dianne Feinstein’s Office http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/09/from-henry-waxmans-office-to-dianne-feinsteins-office/ Drinking the love from her Holy Grail Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:23:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: parrothead http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/09/from-henry-waxmans-office-to-dianne-feinsteins-office/#comment-19103 parrothead Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:11:04 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=5101#comment-19103 Reading that post I didn't see Eric as saying Kennedy was evil because of his politics but mostly because of his actions with regard to Chappiquiddick. AS far as the "ridiculous nonsense" people are saying about the health care reform bills I will have to repeat my point from an earlier post. While technically not lying Democrats are not being forthcoming about truth on this matter. The issue is not what the bill states which is what the Democrats are talking about. I believe that nothing specifically allows illegal aliens coverage in the bills. I also doubt it specifically excludes that coverage. Anybody who knows anything about our government knows there is a difference between what congress passes and what actually gets implemented as the key documents are the instructions put out by the agencies which explain what happens. Furthermore Californian passed Proposition 209 which prevented health care and other services from being provided by the state and the courts overturned that. The Republicans and public have said things will be the result of the legislation not that these issues are specifically in the bill. The Democrats know they are likely right, but stick to the words of the bill as an excuse to call the republicans liars. Reading that post I didn’t see Eric as saying Kennedy was evil because of his politics but mostly because of his actions with regard to Chappiquiddick. AS far as the “ridiculous nonsense” people are saying about the health care reform bills I will have to repeat my point from an earlier post. While technically not lying Democrats are not being forthcoming about truth on this matter. The issue is not what the bill states which is what the Democrats are talking about. I believe that nothing specifically allows illegal aliens coverage in the bills. I also doubt it specifically excludes that coverage. Anybody who knows anything about our government knows there is a difference between what congress passes and what actually gets implemented as the key documents are the instructions put out by the agencies which explain what happens. Furthermore Californian passed Proposition 209 which prevented health care and other services from being provided by the state and the courts overturned that. The Republicans and public have said things will be the result of the legislation not that these issues are specifically in the bill. The Democrats know they are likely right, but stick to the words of the bill as an excuse to call the republicans liars.

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/09/from-henry-waxmans-office-to-dianne-feinsteins-office/#comment-19090 Jersey McJones Sat, 05 Sep 2009 20:59:38 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=5101#comment-19090 As I've said before the only difference between the ridiculous lionizing of Ted Kennedy and the ridiculous demonization of him is who's being ridiculous. People believe what they want to believe. If it suits your worldview to believe ridiculous nonsense about Kennedy, then you believe it. Just look at all the insipid, ridiculous nonsense people are saying about Obama, or the healthcare reform bills, and on and on. You could tell some people that Obama is an alien robot sent by Satan to eat all our childrens brains and they'll believe it. Even our good host admitted that he raised the question of illegal aliens getting healthcare from the "Obama Plan" when you'd have to be completely ignorant of those plans to believe such a thing. Ridiculous nonsense. And for all Eric's rant about Kennedy there was very little objective substance to back his insults. Sure, thre were lots of partisan shots, but that doesn't mean Kennedy was a bad person, just that he was a Democrat. Does Eric believe half the country are evil slobbolas? I happen to applaud Kennedy's handling of Bork and Thomas. I think he was right on when he said Bush was a liar. I don't find any of this to be "the politics of personal distruction," but rather the correct handling of substantive issues. Eric sugects that perhaps we'll all be a little more civil with Kennedy's passing, but Kennedy was famously civil. That's why he had so many friends on both sides of the aisle. The incivility is in posts like Eric's <em>about</em> Kennedy, and that's disappointing. I expect more from our good host. He should be above the ranting idiocy of the Fox News clowns and Hate Talk AM radio. Like I said, If I had read that post, and I didn't know Eric better, I would have been very suspicious of his intentions at that function. JMJ As I’ve said before the only difference between the ridiculous lionizing of Ted Kennedy and the ridiculous demonization of him is who’s being ridiculous.

People believe what they want to believe. If it suits your worldview to believe ridiculous nonsense about Kennedy, then you believe it. Just look at all the insipid, ridiculous nonsense people are saying about Obama, or the healthcare reform bills, and on and on. You could tell some people that Obama is an alien robot sent by Satan to eat all our childrens brains and they’ll believe it. Even our good host admitted that he raised the question of illegal aliens getting healthcare from the “Obama Plan” when you’d have to be completely ignorant of those plans to believe such a thing. Ridiculous nonsense.

And for all Eric’s rant about Kennedy there was very little objective substance to back his insults. Sure, thre were lots of partisan shots, but that doesn’t mean Kennedy was a bad person, just that he was a Democrat. Does Eric believe half the country are evil slobbolas? I happen to applaud Kennedy’s handling of Bork and Thomas. I think he was right on when he said Bush was a liar. I don’t find any of this to be “the politics of personal distruction,” but rather the correct handling of substantive issues. Eric sugects that perhaps we’ll all be a little more civil with Kennedy’s passing, but Kennedy was famously civil. That’s why he had so many friends on both sides of the aisle. The incivility is in posts like Eric’s about Kennedy, and that’s disappointing. I expect more from our good host. He should be above the ranting idiocy of the Fox News clowns and Hate Talk AM radio.

Like I said, If I had read that post, and I didn’t know Eric better, I would have been very suspicious of his intentions at that function.

JMJ

]]> By: parrothead http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/09/from-henry-waxmans-office-to-dianne-feinsteins-office/#comment-19087 parrothead Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:48:57 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=5101#comment-19087 By the way my late mother used to also talk about how he "gave aid and comfort to the enemy" and how "his brother must have turned over in his grave" over some of his actions during Viet Nam which she said included donating blood for the NVA. I was really young at that time at don't remember his actions (nor can I find any reference on the web) so I am not sure exactly what she is talking about, but she put him right along Jane Fonda ever since I can remember. By the way my late mother used to also talk about how he “gave aid and comfort to the enemy” and how “his brother must have turned over in his grave” over some of his actions during Viet Nam which she said included donating blood for the NVA. I was really young at that time at don’t remember his actions (nor can I find any reference on the web) so I am not sure exactly what she is talking about, but she put him right along Jane Fonda ever since I can remember.

]]> By: parrothead http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/09/from-henry-waxmans-office-to-dianne-feinsteins-office/#comment-19086 parrothead Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:45:06 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=5101#comment-19086 Yes Jersey I said I had read it you didn't need to post it. I still don't buy it as over the top. Yes it does violate the old adage of "don't speak ill of the dead." But he didn't even say he was happy Ted died of cancer or say he wished others followed. He basically said lets remember the bad things Kennedy did. His reference to the Klan was not an equivalence or saying Kennedy was a member. HE was trying to point out that just because you do some good things that doesn't always even the score. If you believe, as many rational people do, that he murdered Mary Jo Kopechne, then that heavily outweighs what good he did. Its like when Michael Jackson died, all of a sudden this guy who was a pariah and who had to schedule his comeback tour for Europe because he couldn't sell tickets in America suddenly became a saint. It isn't over the top to point out all the bad things this individual did. Which was really all Eric did. As I said before some might consider it disrespectful, but it certainly didn't imply that he was likely violent or disruptive. Yes Jersey I said I had read it you didn’t need to post it. I still don’t buy it as over the top. Yes it does violate the old adage of “don’t speak ill of the dead.” But he didn’t even say he was happy Ted died of cancer or say he wished others followed. He basically said lets remember the bad things Kennedy did. His reference to the Klan was not an equivalence or saying Kennedy was a member. HE was trying to point out that just because you do some good things that doesn’t always even the score. If you believe, as many rational people do, that he murdered Mary Jo Kopechne, then that heavily outweighs what good he did.
Its like when Michael Jackson died, all of a sudden this guy who was a pariah and who had to schedule his comeback tour for Europe because he couldn’t sell tickets in America suddenly became a saint. It isn’t over the top to point out all the bad things this individual did. Which was really all Eric did.
As I said before some might consider it disrespectful, but it certainly didn’t imply that he was likely violent or disruptive.

]]> By: Micky 2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/09/from-henry-waxmans-office-to-dianne-feinsteins-office/#comment-19076 Micky 2 Sat, 05 Sep 2009 01:58:45 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=5101#comment-19076 Insecure zealouts Insecure zealouts

]]> By: Micky 2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/09/from-henry-waxmans-office-to-dianne-feinsteins-office/#comment-19075 Micky 2 Sat, 05 Sep 2009 01:58:15 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=5101#comment-19075 Someones bored, couldnt you just drop the link ? Wasnt over the top, you're just in love with Kennedy and refuse to ackonowledge the blight he placed from a right perspective. As was mentioned but i'll elaborate. If the left went thru the kind of scrutiny Eric went thru half of you wouldnt get whithin 5 miles of half the events we host. The left is the title holder when it comes to over the top. Thats why you have the blogs most noted for being hateful and over the top are almost household names , like the KOS, Move on, HP blogs... these are the blogs that get primetime notariety for being over the top. I dont see right wing blogs hitting the news like these three do for hateful content. We dont have the protests that show cons being hung and murdered in efigy, fake blood, burning flags etc... thats you guys. So please, drop the Ted kenedy thing already, its not working. What works is that the manager and more than likely Waxmans staff are a bunch of zealouts Someones bored, couldnt you just drop the link ?
Wasnt over the top, you’re just in love with Kennedy and refuse to ackonowledge the blight he placed from a right perspective.
As was mentioned but i’ll elaborate. If the left went thru the kind of scrutiny Eric went thru half of you wouldnt get whithin 5 miles of half the events we host.
The left is the title holder when it comes to over the top. Thats why you have the blogs most noted for being hateful and over the top are almost household names , like the KOS, Move on, HP blogs… these are the blogs that get primetime notariety for being over the top. I dont see right wing blogs hitting the news like these three do for hateful content. We dont have the protests that show cons being hung and murdered in efigy, fake blood, burning flags etc… thats you guys.

So please, drop the Ted kenedy thing already, its not working. What works is that the manager and more than likely Waxmans staff are a bunch of zealouts

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/09/from-henry-waxmans-office-to-dianne-feinsteins-office/#comment-19074 Jersey McJones Sat, 05 Sep 2009 00:57:37 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=5101#comment-19074 Parrot, are you kidding me??? "Taking Ted to the (wood) shed August 27th, 2009 Ted is dead. My self-imposed 24 hour grace period, which the left would never give to George W. Bush or any other conservative, has ended. I was willing to leave Ted Kennedy be and let his family mourn on the day of his death. I will not sit back and let the media lionize his life. It is time to take the Ted to the (wood) shed. Not only was he a bad person, but he managed to make everybody around him worse. http://norunnyeggs.com/2009/08/the-morning-scramble-special-swimming-away-edition/ http://www.thesubstratum.com/general-politics/senator-edward-kennedy-dies-and-i-cant-lie-the-champagne-will-be-flowing-tonight-at-my-place/ http://miamipress.net/2009/08/26/cowardly-lion-of-senate-ted-kennedy-dead-at-77/ http://rositatheprolesnastylittlebloggingproblem.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/mary-jo-kopechne-to-ted-kennedy-welcome-to-the-afterlife/ I will not let Chappaquiddick go. Liberals who chant that “Bush lied, people died,” apparently do not care that Ted Kennedy left a woman to die, and then lied about it. Simply put, he put his political career over the life of a human being. If members of the Klan build roads, that does not erase that they are members of the Klan. Hamas builds schools, but they are still terrorists who blow people up. A murderer who goes to prison and donates a kidney is as life neutral as the phonies who believe in carbon offsets. Ted Kennedy did positive things, and I am sure if I picked up an industrial strength magnifying glass, I might find something. That does not invalidate the fact that he got drunk, drove a car off of a bridge, and left a woman to die, all the while using his money and power to cover up the truth. Long before he took a human life, he cheated at Harvard. His family used their money and power to reduce an automatic expulsion and lifetime ban to a one year suspension. This not only was a disgrace for Ted Kennedy, but was one occurrence in a series of events that has led Harvard over the past 40 years to decline from a first rate institution to the Poison Ivy League joke it is today. Also, university slots are finite. Bringing Ted back came at the expense of some random “little person” that he never bothered to think about. Supporters of Ted Kennedy have sunk to his level of worthlessness. The National Organization for Women remains a collection of hags and harpies that have zero interest in women’s rights. Any organization that finds Ted Kennedy better for feminism than Sarah Palin is phony. Sarah Palin did not kill a woman. Sarah Palin is faithful to her spouse. Sarah Palin is cursed because she did not drive her daughter Bristol over a bridge to prevent a child from being born. Perhaps if Senator Kennedy had let his lover and child survive, he would be pilloried today. George W. Bush used to drink. Unlike Ted Kennedy and Christopher Dodd, President Bush did not sexually assault his serving waitress. Also, those that criticize George W. Bush as having succeeded due to his family name should look at Ted Kennedy with an honest lens. At least George W. Bush attempted real jobs in the private sector, and returned to the private sector. Ted Kennedy claimed to care about the working man, even though he never was one. Being a “hardworking Senator” is not lifting a lunch pail and putting on a hard hat. Ted Kennedy claimed to care about people, but he as was phony on other policies as he was about women’s issues. He claimed to be for renewable energy sources, but blocked a wind farm that obscured his pristine view from his Massachusetts home. He raised taxes for middle Americans who could not afford the expensive tax attorneys and tax shelters that he utilized to evade the very laws he had enacted. He was phony to the end. In 2004, he was concerned that if John Kerry was elected President (shudder), Republican Governor Mitt Romney would appoint a Republican to the seat. He had the law changed to call for a special election in that scenario, removing the governor’s power. This in itself was not bad, even if the motives were impure. However, in 2009, he tried to change the law back because he wanted Deval Patrick, the very liberal governor of Massachusetts, to appoint another liberal rather than risk a special election. Personality wise, Ted Kennedy was a bully. His treatment of Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas was abusive. In an office setting, his behavior could have even been actionable. He took decent men and libeled them. Worst of all, Ted Kennedy abused people who tried to reach across the aisle to him. John McCain made the mistake of calling Ted Kennedy his friend. Ted Kennedy responded by lambasting him far beyond traditional politics during the 2008 election. He worked with President George W. Bush on an education bill. He then turned around and called President Bush a liar, which is like the pot calling the kettle African-American. Ted Kennedy personified the politics of personal destruction. His passing will hopefully lead to a more civil discourse in society. At the very least, the Senate just became nicer by percentage. My prediction is that the leftist bullies will try and get a terrible health care bill passed in his honor. “Win one for Teddy” will be used to try and paint everybody against a bad bill as trying to defile the memory of a man who died of brain cancer. This fits in with the left’s refusal to acknowledge that reasonable people can have principled disagreements. Ted Kennedy did not just die of cancer, which I wish on nobody. He was a cancer. He was pure poison. He destroyed innocent lives while holding himself up as a paragon of virtue. He wrecked reputations, for no other reason than pure power. He wrecked lives. I wish no pain on his family, but I will not shed a single crocodile tear on his passing. I cannot think of a better way to honor this nation than to defeat the terrible bill that was his awful life’s work. eric" Parrot - compared to most of opur good hosts posts this was WAY over the top. Tygrrrr even brought in the Klan. The Klan man!!! JMJ Parrot, are you kidding me???

“Taking Ted to the (wood) shed
August 27th, 2009 Ted is dead.

My self-imposed 24 hour grace period, which the left would never give to George W. Bush or any other conservative, has ended.

I was willing to leave Ted Kennedy be and let his family mourn on the day of his death.

I will not sit back and let the media lionize his life.

It is time to take the Ted to the (wood) shed.

Not only was he a bad person, but he managed to make everybody around him worse.

http://norunnyeggs.com/2009/08/the-morning-scramble-special-swimming-away-edition/

http://www.thesubstratum.com/general-politics/senator-edward-kennedy-dies-and-i-cant-lie-the-champagne-will-be-flowing-tonight-at-my-place/

http://miamipress.net/2009/08/26/cowardly-lion-of-senate-ted-kennedy-dead-at-77/

http://rositatheprolesnastylittlebloggingproblem.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/mary-jo-kopechne-to-ted-kennedy-welcome-to-the-afterlife/

I will not let Chappaquiddick go. Liberals who chant that “Bush lied, people died,” apparently do not care that Ted Kennedy left a woman to die, and then lied about it. Simply put, he put his political career over the life of a human being.

If members of the Klan build roads, that does not erase that they are members of the Klan. Hamas builds schools, but they are still terrorists who blow people up. A murderer who goes to prison and donates a kidney is as life neutral as the phonies who believe in carbon offsets.

Ted Kennedy did positive things, and I am sure if I picked up an industrial strength magnifying glass, I might find something. That does not invalidate the fact that he got drunk, drove a car off of a bridge, and left a woman to die, all the while using his money and power to cover up the truth.

Long before he took a human life, he cheated at Harvard. His family used their money and power to reduce an automatic expulsion and lifetime ban to a one year suspension. This not only was a disgrace for Ted Kennedy, but was one occurrence in a series of events that has led Harvard over the past 40 years to decline from a first rate institution to the Poison Ivy League joke it is today. Also, university slots are finite. Bringing Ted back came at the expense of some random “little person” that he never bothered to think about.

Supporters of Ted Kennedy have sunk to his level of worthlessness. The National Organization for Women remains a collection of hags and harpies that have zero interest in women’s rights. Any organization that finds Ted Kennedy better for feminism than Sarah Palin is phony. Sarah Palin did not kill a woman. Sarah Palin is faithful to her spouse. Sarah Palin is cursed because she did not drive her daughter Bristol over a bridge to prevent a child from being born. Perhaps if Senator Kennedy had let his lover and child survive, he would be pilloried today.

George W. Bush used to drink. Unlike Ted Kennedy and Christopher Dodd, President Bush did not sexually assault his serving waitress. Also, those that criticize George W. Bush as having succeeded due to his family name should look at Ted Kennedy with an honest lens. At least George W. Bush attempted real jobs in the private sector, and returned to the private sector. Ted Kennedy claimed to care about the working man, even though he never was one. Being a “hardworking Senator” is not lifting a lunch pail and putting on a hard hat.

Ted Kennedy claimed to care about people, but he as was phony on other policies as he was about women’s issues. He claimed to be for renewable energy sources, but blocked a wind farm that obscured his pristine view from his Massachusetts home.

He raised taxes for middle Americans who could not afford the expensive tax attorneys and tax shelters that he utilized to evade the very laws he had enacted.

He was phony to the end. In 2004, he was concerned that if John Kerry was elected President (shudder), Republican Governor Mitt Romney would appoint a Republican to the seat. He had the law changed to call for a special election in that scenario, removing the governor’s power.

This in itself was not bad, even if the motives were impure. However, in 2009, he tried to change the law back because he wanted Deval Patrick, the very liberal governor of Massachusetts, to appoint another liberal rather than risk a special election.

Personality wise, Ted Kennedy was a bully. His treatment of Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas was abusive. In an office setting, his behavior could have even been actionable. He took decent men and libeled them.

Worst of all, Ted Kennedy abused people who tried to reach across the aisle to him.

John McCain made the mistake of calling Ted Kennedy his friend. Ted Kennedy responded by lambasting him far beyond traditional politics during the 2008 election.

He worked with President George W. Bush on an education bill. He then turned around and called President Bush a liar, which is like the pot calling the kettle African-American.

Ted Kennedy personified the politics of personal destruction.

His passing will hopefully lead to a more civil discourse in society. At the very least, the Senate just became nicer by percentage.

My prediction is that the leftist bullies will try and get a terrible health care bill passed in his honor. “Win one for Teddy” will be used to try and paint everybody against a bad bill as trying to defile the memory of a man who died of brain cancer. This fits in with the left’s refusal to acknowledge that reasonable people can have principled disagreements.

Ted Kennedy did not just die of cancer, which I wish on nobody.

He was a cancer. He was pure poison. He destroyed innocent lives while holding himself up as a paragon of virtue. He wrecked reputations, for no other reason than pure power.

He wrecked lives.

I wish no pain on his family, but I will not shed a single crocodile tear on his passing.

I cannot think of a better way to honor this nation than to defeat the terrible bill that was his awful life’s work.

eric”

Parrot - compared to most of opur good hosts posts this was WAY over the top. Tygrrrr even brought in the Klan. The Klan man!!!

JMJ

]]> By: parrothead http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/09/from-henry-waxmans-office-to-dianne-feinsteins-office/#comment-19072 parrothead Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:17:55 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=5101#comment-19072 even that column is a stretch to label Eric a disruptive activist even that column is a stretch to label Eric a disruptive activist

]]> By: parrothead http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/09/from-henry-waxmans-office-to-dianne-feinsteins-office/#comment-19071 parrothead Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:17:15 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=5101#comment-19071 I finally read that Kennedy blog you were talking about. I didn't see it as "over the top" or rating the kind of treatment he received. Calling him a cancer might be considered disrespectful and in poor taste but that term is a common expression in the sports world. He certainly said, I am not going to pretend I liked him and here is why, but he never said that somebody should have taken action to hasten the process or advocated violence in any way. Unlike some of the thins I have heard many on the left advocate about George Bush and Sick Cheney. Or the college professor I had in 1981 who said "too bad that bullet wasn't a little higher" when Reagan was shot. My only point is even th I finally read that Kennedy blog you were talking about. I didn’t see it as “over the top” or rating the kind of treatment he received. Calling him a cancer might be considered disrespectful and in poor taste but that term is a common expression in the sports world. He certainly said, I am not going to pretend I liked him and here is why, but he never said that somebody should have taken action to hasten the process or advocated violence in any way. Unlike some of the thins I have heard many on the left advocate about George Bush and Sick Cheney. Or the college professor I had in 1981 who said “too bad that bullet wasn’t a little higher” when Reagan was shot. My only point is even th

]]> By: parrothead http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/09/from-henry-waxmans-office-to-dianne-feinsteins-office/#comment-19068 parrothead Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:36:27 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=5101#comment-19068 Honestly if they have read most of his blogsthere would be more reason for fear among the female journalists covering the event than congressman Waxman :-) Of course Eric in reality is a gentleman. Honestly if they have read most of his blogsthere would be more reason for fear among the female journalists covering the event than congressman Waxman :-) Of course Eric in reality is a gentleman.

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