Comments on: Ideological Bigotry Part XXI–Playboy Screws Itself http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/06/ideological-bigotry-part-xxi-playboy-screws-itself/ Drinking the love from her Holy Grail Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:07:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Eagle 6 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/06/ideological-bigotry-part-xxi-playboy-screws-itself/#comment-15929 Eagle 6 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:03:01 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=4126#comment-15929 Agreed - both "sides" are attacking the peripherals...Palin's clothes vs the size of Pelosi's jet... we'll figure it out, but it will get uglier... Agreed - both “sides” are attacking the peripherals…Palin’s clothes vs the size of Pelosi’s jet… we’ll figure it out, but it will get uglier…

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/06/ideological-bigotry-part-xxi-playboy-screws-itself/#comment-15928 Jersey McJones Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:19:32 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=4126#comment-15928 I'm getting nervous as well. We just seem to keep growing the empire and neglecting the republic. I'm very worried about that. We don't don't teach "history" anymore, we teach "social studies." "Conservatives" are fine with "nation-building" while "liberals" are concerned with "political correctness." I'm afraid the people are so caught up in b@llsh!t they can't see the broken bridge from the clear road. We should worry less about the nomenclature of BS (ie: "socialist, "capitalist," "communist," "nationalist," "fascist") and more about the detailed explanations of each and every <em>real</em> issue we face in our <em>real</em> lives. No? JMJ I’m getting nervous as well. We just seem to keep growing the empire and neglecting the republic. I’m very worried about that. We don’t don’t teach “history” anymore, we teach “social studies.” “Conservatives” are fine with “nation-building” while “liberals” are concerned with “political correctness.” I’m afraid the people are so caught up in b@llsh!t they can’t see the broken bridge from the clear road. We should worry less about the nomenclature of BS (ie: “socialist, “capitalist,” “communist,” “nationalist,” “fascist”) and more about the detailed explanations of each and every real issue we face in our real lives. No?

JMJ

]]> By: Eagle 6 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/06/ideological-bigotry-part-xxi-playboy-screws-itself/#comment-15927 Eagle 6 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:48:55 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=4126#comment-15927 Indeed...concurrence...consensus...whatever the buzzword of the day is - but sometimes we have to look up down and sideways for common ground. Your comment about bending is appropriate - sometimes it's tactical to give a little to take a lot...other times it's simply prudent to understand a battle can't be won on the given turf, so we sniff around and see what common ground there is, then move the battle to a different venue... I used to want to always "win" my arguments, or score points, but I'm getting older and not as sensitive, so I don't mind conceding here and there to look at the strategic goal as opposed to the tactical battle at hand... I'm nervous about the direction we are heading as a nation, so I can get passionate about certain things! Indeed…concurrence…consensus…whatever the buzzword of the day is - but sometimes we have to look up down and sideways for common ground. Your comment about bending is appropriate - sometimes it’s tactical to give a little to take a lot…other times it’s simply prudent to understand a battle can’t be won on the given turf, so we sniff around and see what common ground there is, then move the battle to a different venue… I used to want to always “win” my arguments, or score points, but I’m getting older and not as sensitive, so I don’t mind conceding here and there to look at the strategic goal as opposed to the tactical battle at hand… I’m nervous about the direction we are heading as a nation, so I can get passionate about certain things!

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/06/ideological-bigotry-part-xxi-playboy-screws-itself/#comment-15926 Jersey McJones Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:28:46 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=4126#comment-15926 Touche. But don't make the mistake that I'm somehow I'm always the devil's advocate. I'm not (though it is fun!). I'm not so much looking for a fight as I'm looking for a convert. I, just as you (I'm sure), am looking for a convert. Take on my argument, and/or accept/reject my position. Just one acceptance/rejection will be no great loss to you. I can tell. You're not an idiot. JMJ Touche. But don’t make the mistake that I’m somehow I’m always the devil’s advocate. I’m not (though it is fun!). I’m not so much looking for a fight as I’m looking for a convert. I, just as you (I’m sure), am looking for a convert. Take on my argument, and/or accept/reject my position. Just one acceptance/rejection will be no great loss to you. I can tell. You’re not an idiot.

JMJ

]]> By: Eagle 6 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/06/ideological-bigotry-part-xxi-playboy-screws-itself/#comment-15925 Eagle 6 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:47:55 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=4126#comment-15925 That's one of the problems with the Bible - the pastors and their interpretations! Many Catholics subscribe to the "Father" concept based on so many people not being able to read...but I'm just joking...somewhat...we must always explore the options, and I see you playing devil's advocate all the time - searching for different ways of looking at the problems. I will play diplomat with the latter question... I have to be careful in concurring that "battlefield rules are a far cry for the rules of the normal process of a republic" lest one think I also subscribe to a scorched earth mentality... :) That’s one of the problems with the Bible - the pastors and their interpretations! Many Catholics subscribe to the “Father” concept based on so many people not being able to read…but I’m just joking…somewhat…we must always explore the options, and I see you playing devil’s advocate all the time - searching for different ways of looking at the problems.

I will play diplomat with the latter question… I have to be careful in concurring that “battlefield rules are a far cry for the rules of the normal process of a republic” lest one think I also subscribe to a scorched earth mentality… :)

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/06/ideological-bigotry-part-xxi-playboy-screws-itself/#comment-15924 Jersey McJones Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:24:54 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=4126#comment-15924 Ah, Eagle, so you're of the interpretive variety. ;) No. Obviously what <em>is</em> meant (ask any pastor with a serious theological background) by "turn the other cheek" was to tolerate tangibly inconsequential rhetoric. Really. Ask one. It's the ol' "sticks and stones" rule. Please. Go ahead and ask a Chaplain - with my exact same wording. I guarantee he/she will agree. I guarantee. On the other hand, your example is quite relevent - to another argument. In that argument, we probably wouldn't disagree. The ol' "bend but don't break" strategy applies well in certain circumstances. In this case, I believe, it does not. No life is on the direct line here. Battlefield rules are a far cry from the rules of the normal process of a republic. No? JMJ Ah, Eagle, so you’re of the interpretive variety. ;) No. Obviously what is meant (ask any pastor with a serious theological background) by “turn the other cheek” was to tolerate tangibly inconsequential rhetoric. Really. Ask one. It’s the ol’ “sticks and stones” rule. Please. Go ahead and ask a Chaplain - with my exact same wording. I guarantee he/she will agree. I guarantee.

On the other hand, your example is quite relevent - to another argument. In that argument, we probably wouldn’t disagree. The ol’ “bend but don’t break” strategy applies well in certain circumstances. In this case, I believe, it does not. No life is on the direct line here. Battlefield rules are a far cry from the rules of the normal process of a republic. No?

JMJ

]]> By: Eagle 6 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/06/ideological-bigotry-part-xxi-playboy-screws-itself/#comment-15920 Eagle 6 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:46:38 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=4126#comment-15920 Jersey, Interesting concept...but I think the Biblical directive to turn the other cheek was merely tactical advice to put oneself into a better position for a counterpunch... Jersey, Interesting concept…but I think the Biblical directive to turn the other cheek was merely tactical advice to put oneself into a better position for a counterpunch…

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/06/ideological-bigotry-part-xxi-playboy-screws-itself/#comment-15917 Jersey McJones Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:14:04 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=4126#comment-15917 Interesting route our good host chose with my comments... I was talking about Michelle Malkin above. Micky talks about perpetuating hate here. So does our good host. Yet the people you cite as being abused by hate are people who themselves regularly espouse hatred - for a living, no less - and so <em>in response</em> are treated with hatred. In life, you get what you deserve. You reap what you sow. You sleep in the bed you make. It's karma. It's balance. It's a natural phenomenon. If you spew hatred, expect hatred in return. If you spread love, expect love. I know it seems corny, and there are certainly exceptions to the rule, but the Beatles said it right when they sang, "the love you take is equal to the love you make." The same goes for hate. This is <em>not</em> "ideological bigotry." It is simply "what comes around, goes around." And I'll tell ya' what else "comes around" - too much editorial license. Aside from the clever writing, this blog stands out among most others in that it <em>encourages</em> healthy and strong debate, and with a moderator who completely stands aside, a rare thing indeed. Without these stand-apart styles, it would still be just as clever, but it would lack that strong confident idium. Our good host confers "the media" as "left wing" and "biased" and engaging in "ideological bigotry." Well then, stand above those sins. If it is wrong to hate hate. If it is wrong to be intolerant of intolerance. Then live it. Turn the other cheeck. What have you to lose? If worse comes to worst the worst thing that can happen is you may be shown wrong about something. Big deal. you're a big boy. You can handle it. JMJ Interesting route our good host chose with my comments… I was talking about Michelle Malkin above. Micky talks about perpetuating hate here. So does our good host. Yet the people you cite as being abused by hate are people who themselves regularly espouse hatred - for a living, no less - and so in response are treated with hatred. In life, you get what you deserve. You reap what you sow. You sleep in the bed you make. It’s karma. It’s balance. It’s a natural phenomenon. If you spew hatred, expect hatred in return. If you spread love, expect love. I know it seems corny, and there are certainly exceptions to the rule, but the Beatles said it right when they sang, “the love you take is equal to the love you make.” The same goes for hate. This is not “ideological bigotry.” It is simply “what comes around, goes around.” And I’ll tell ya’ what else “comes around” - too much editorial license. Aside from the clever writing, this blog stands out among most others in that it encourages healthy and strong debate, and with a moderator who completely stands aside, a rare thing indeed. Without these stand-apart styles, it would still be just as clever, but it would lack that strong confident idium. Our good host confers “the media” as “left wing” and “biased” and engaging in “ideological bigotry.” Well then, stand above those sins. If it is wrong to hate hate. If it is wrong to be intolerant of intolerance. Then live it. Turn the other cheeck. What have you to lose? If worse comes to worst the worst thing that can happen is you may be shown wrong about something. Big deal. you’re a big boy. You can handle it.

JMJ

]]> By: Micky 2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/06/ideological-bigotry-part-xxi-playboy-screws-itself/#comment-15915 Micky 2 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:02:49 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=4126#comment-15915 Off on the side lets hear it for Charles Krauthammer ! "Krauthammer receives Web Award KRAUTHAMMER | 09/10/2008 Krauthammer has been awarded the 'Consulting Standard of Excellence Award' by the Web Marketing Association that once a year names the world's best web sites in 96 industry categories!" Off on the side lets hear it for Charles Krauthammer !

“Krauthammer receives Web Award
KRAUTHAMMER | 09/10/2008
Krauthammer has been awarded the ‘Consulting Standard of Excellence Award’ by the Web Marketing Association that once a year names the world’s best web sites in 96 industry categories!”

]]> By: Micky 2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2009/06/ideological-bigotry-part-xxi-playboy-screws-itself/#comment-15909 Micky 2 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:42:16 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=4126#comment-15909 I say let the left go. Let them perpetuate the hatred. Let the publications and media feed the pirahnas so that the school becomes so large theres no way the surface of the water can conciel the evil little pack of fish they are. Just about everything they're doing is going to make this next election a slam dunk. At this rate they're going to make Nugent/Bauer ticket a cake walk. I say let the left go. Let them perpetuate the hatred. Let the publications and media feed the pirahnas so that the school becomes so large theres no way the surface of the water can conciel the evil little pack of fish they are.
Just about everything they’re doing is going to make this next election a slam dunk. At this rate they’re going to make Nugent/Bauer ticket a cake walk.

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