The Turkish leader shouted that Israel is killing people. My oh my oh my, killing people, as if during these past 6 years in Iraq we (the USA) haven’t!

My spies in Iraq tell me that over 100,000 people have been killed since March 2003., including Iraqi Sunnis, Iraqi Shias, Iraqi Kurds, Iraqi Turkamen, Al Qaeda (Iraqis), Iranian infiltrators (former Iraqis), doctors, barbers, politicians, women who dare to not wear the burkas, etc., etc.

I admit to reading the Los Angeles “Palestinian” Times..even though it has increased it’s daily price on the newstand by 45% (there is no recession
worries at the Times apparently). (But to be fair, the paper, owned in Chicago, has reduced it’s staff, and the number of pages, while increasing it’s percentage of advertising…yet it’s still one boycott away from oblivion. )

Let me get this straight! Israel withdrew from the Strip, even though for decades Al Fatah and Fatah, and Islamic Jihad, the PLO, the DFLP and the PFLP, not to forget Al Aksa Mosque Brigades ( the military wing of Fatah) have recurringly attacked the maiinly secular Jewish state, with suicide bombers, pipe bombs, roadside bombs, Kassams, Katyushas, Grads and now
Fahrs (30 feet long Iranian supplied 50 mile reach rockets). For 2 years, these Arab barbarians who hate we Jews in their miserable souls, have even tried to burrow into Israel..that is how much they hate us and US.
Guess why?

I recall when in 67, the UN peace keepers were forced to leave the Strip, by orders of
Nasser, Al Fatah guerrillas joined the regular Egyptian army in their quest to “throw the JEWS Into the Sea”. But that is another story.

Anyway, Israel recently destroyed those 22 settlements, and (thanks to Jewish charity) donated it’s manufacturing plants to the Palistinians, as a good faith gesture.

Guess what Hamas did with those settlements and manufacturing plants.
After urinating, etc., on the synagogues, etc., they used the settlements
as training camps for militants (I call them terrorists). And guess what their goals were, not build baby build, but burn baby burn.

I sometimes wonder what we (in California) would do if 10,000 cheap, homemade or more sophisticated rockets were fired from Baha, California into San Diego County or Long Beach, or maybe even Southern Los Angeles County? Would be blame the marines for any counter attacks and collateral damage?

Would be use the pictures of dead and injured Mexican babies to show how awful the barbarian Americans are? Would the LA Times have article after article after article describing the military actions next to bombed
Mexican churches, hospitals, schools? Hmmmmmmmmmm.

But then again, the world wants we Jews to emulate our brethren during WW2, and just sit there and take it..allow our children to be thrown into gas chambers or fire pits., to be experimented on, twins included. Gee they ask, why aren’t we complying, living (down) to our reputation., timid, hapless, feckless and outright scared?

Maybe Meir Kahane was right when he wrote, “Listen World, Listen Jew”.

Am I a proud US Jewish Zionist..you bet and then some.

It was hate by the Arab leaders of the countries surrounding Israel that has established the pattern that still exist today. While Israel has time and again tried to make peace with its neighboring countries and the Palestinians, the hatred fueled by people in one or more of the surrounding countries has been damaging to both the Palestinian and the Jews and others who peacefully have tried to live in Israel.

How can a people so poor have money to acquire rockets? They can’t? The rockets and weapons are obviously being provided by others who hate the Jewish people and in fact do not care if Palestinian are also destroyed in the process. Continue to pray for the Peace of Jerusalem and for all the innocent caught in the middle of the war. Pray that the evils and deceptions of the enemies of Israel will be made embarrassingly clear to the whole world.

And Parrot - you are absolutely right that PEO is the consummate politician. I wish him well. Article 88.

Yea Parrot, the whole “liberal Jew” thing to me is a little confusing.

PEO Obama doesn’t need to say anything right now. His silence allows the many replays of his pre-election, “Israel has every right to use violence to protect herself” to speak volumes. It also gives him a pass to do whatever he feels is politically best once he takes office. Our designated SEN Clinton is a fireball, and although I’m not keen on many of her domestic policies, she’ll be fine where she is…
I may be all wrong about this one, but I think the Hamas have shown the dangers of democracy vice republic… we are leaning further and further toward the emotional tides of saving the whales, the planet, and toeless pygmy mites, but we’re still reading stupid articles from the NYT and LA Times, so I guess we’re still free…

Yet it never ceases to amaze me that Jews overwhelmingly continue to vote for Democrats. The classic example was Bill Clinton who continues to get overwhelming Jewish support even after being the only US president to not veto a UN resolution condemning Israel for defending itself, refusing to recognize Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel after Congress voted to, interfering with an Israeli election to assure the worst Prime Minister Israel has ever had, and pressuring Israel into agreeing to a unsafe concessions to get a peace deal that Arafat walked out on as not enough.

As far as Obama is concerned, until he actually does something one way or the other I will withhold judgment. I don’t think his silence on this issue is indicative of his not wanting to be on record on anything until he has to be. He wants whatever tough comments or decisions have to be made to be solely Bush’s responsibility until he takes office (and probably a little after). Even if he would have made EXACTLY the same comments/decisions. He is the consummate politician and a shrewd one at that.

As vague as all his other crap has been he’ll leave that at that and let us all rumor to death what his position is.

Actually, if he was totally supportive of Bushs approach to all this I would think he’d say so by now.
Saying nothing so far gives me the impression he has other ideas.
I mean really, its not that much skin off his back to come and say that he’s with the administration on this unless he’s not.

Does anyone think Hillary will say something before Obama ?
I mean after all, being the Sec of state now could be a problem in this matter for one of many conflicting reasons. During her 99 visit to the middle east she hung out with Suha, Arafat’s wife. With Hillary standing next to her she said “Our people have been submitted to the daily and intensive use of poisonous gas by the Israeli forces, which has led to an increase in cancer cases among women and children.” Then after that rambled off something about Israel poisoning the water also.
That was when Hillary kissed her on the cheek.
Soooo, what comes outta her yap should also be fairly interesting.

I thinks its most definitly a partisan issue since it seems that the void in the help the Israelis need is being created by the left.
Its not the right thats out in the streets sympathizing with the Palestinians and apolgizing for America.
Its not the right thats screaming bloody murder on behalf of Palestinians and b*tching about “disproportions” or blaming Israel for defending itself.
I’m with almost always wsith you bro but I cant swallow that its not a partisan issue.