“The point that the “host” and other commenters are making, I think, is if they want to call themselves Palestinians, no one cares, ”

Actually I care because the title gives the assumption that there is an existence of something that in all actuality does not exist as portrayed.
Much like in the case with global warming.
We see adds and proclamations all over the place that move forward and project as if there is no debate on the issue and that’s its fact by common consensus. What you end up with is a bandwagon effect where everyone jumps on board because it gets to point where its taken as granted that its really happening.
Its a tricky sales technique that’s been used for centuries that makes one move in a certain direction by subliminal assertion and assumption that the sale will happen.
Keep saying it without anyone ever questioning it and it’ll become fact one day.
George Washington did not have wooden teeth.
And there is no more Palestine so there is no way to be a Palestinian
Global warming is still very debatable but we keep seeing adds that claim the product will help stop global warming while no one asks anymore if its really happening.

Gazans, West bankers, or even Gazanians would be a more accurate and truthful title for these people to go by and would accurately describe their being

the site is fousesquawk

Jersey McJones Says:
January 7th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
“The Egyptians don’t want the Gazans. The Jordanians don’t want the West Bankers.”

So, is it you who gets to title them ?
What’ll it be ?
GAZANS ?
WEST BANKERS ?
WEST BANK GAZANS?
GAZAN BANKERS ?
Laughing my arse off

Palestinians are former Syrians and Jordanians - and remember, there was no Jordan either, until the Palestine Mandate was corrupted and Abdullah I became King to appease the Saudi’s. The League of Nations settled it unanimously, the U.N. accepted it.

The point that the “host” and other commenters are making, I think, is if they want to call themselves Palestinians, no one cares, but when they say there’s no such thing as Israeli’s, well that raises our blood pressure.

Palestine is just a place where some ancient Mediterranean nomads settled once upon a time.

Eric, great reporting. I watched some video of the Saturday get-together, and by the time the third one was over…well, it was depressing and I wasn’t even there. I took solace in Shane’s witty dialog at Political Vindication though.

What a stark difference in the two days.

They can call themselves jack sh*t if they want but they are not what they claim to be.

Your playing kiddy games again.
No one said they werent people.
Cubans will always be Cubans because Cuba is what it is and is not made up of a terrirtory that has since been divided.
Palestine no longer exists.
It is Jordan, Syria, Lebanon etc.

Get used to it and get over it.

“Well, WHO THE $#@! ELSE IS SUPPOSED TO TITLE THEM???”
More KIDDY games !!!
NO one said that they couldnt title themselves, did they sonny ??

They can each go back to their respective homes. Israel should ask each one “whats your ancestral region “?
If he says Jordan when it was part of Palestine, then they should air drop him into Jordan and he can be a Jordanian freedom fighter !
Hows that ? Make ya happy ?

I mean, what the heck is this?

“But they are not of the title they give themselves.”

Well, WHO THE $#@! ELSE IS SUPPOSED TO TITLE THEM???

Insane.

If they want to call themselves “Palestinians,” then fine. Who the $#@! are you or our good host or anyone else to tell them what they can and can’t be called. It reminds me of that ridiculous flap over the name of “Macedonia” some years back. Those idiots were came close to starting a shooting war over a $#@! name! But what makes this so nasty is the intent - that somehow these people aren’t even people, that they have no homeland, no claim on the land on which they once lived. Ironically, you conservatives are the first to denounce Castro and demand the property and citizenship of the Cuban exiles be returned, but out the other side of your collective mouth you claim the Palestinians have no such right!

I call HYPOCRITES!

JMJ

Legally, its not theirs and they are not Palestinians.

Calling yourself anything but what you are is more apt to happen with pre schoolers and not sophmors.

I don’t recall that. What did I say? Do you have a link? I’d love to see an ol’ blast from the past post. By the way, I’m one of those who left. I’m happily living in Florida now.

Micky,

The Palestinians are real people who call themselves Palestinians. That’s all the criteria a people need for a name. Calling them “ficticious” is just plain sophomoric.

Now, taking from your logic about whose land is whose - would you say that the Cuban exiles deserve to return to Cuba and get their land back? How about the Native Americans? What about Armenians? Should they get to return to Turkey? These are not simple questions. The problem with you conservatives is that you always look for simple answers to complex questions. Sometimes things just aren’t black and white.

JMJ

They are ficticious.
There is no “Palestine” for them to claim as their home.
They are “MADE UP” from surrounding states that were at one time a part of Palestine, and if you believe that they are real then its you who live in that comic book universe if you’re going to keep imagining that because you read it somewhere its true.

I came across one of those comic book authors today.

The Wicked Witch of OZ Helen Thomas;

http://www.kitv.com/helenthomas/18431868/detail.html

“If Americans are wondering why the Palestinians continue to fight, they might understand that for the last 60 years foreigners have conquered and annexed their land.”

Where Palestine once was is “not” their land anymore ! And where the Israelis are at is not their land. The parts of Palestine that once existed , Jordan etc, do not want them back
But still, every moonbat from here to kingdom come keeps repeating this crap that you yourself say “ONCE WAS” is still theirs.
And it is “THIS” that is a lie !!!
Why dont they start bombing Egypt or Jordan and demand a peice of their real estate ? HUH ?

There is no “Palestine” and never has been for any one of the Palestinians alive today, so they are not “Palestinians”. They are nomad migrating to who knows where wandering Arabs whom could actually have a home if they just stooped acting like idiots.

In acting as if the Israelis are unfit to live in their home and that somehow out of sheer BS believe that its theirs they are the ones who are dehumanizing the Israelis by saying they are not worthy of a home.
Using kids and civilians for cover and as weapons is what dehumanizes them.
The Israelis returning the same does not make them the same as the Palestinians.
It makes them “DOING WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO PROTECT THEMSELVES”

And I will say that any people who believe that are unfit to be about AND WHITHIN the world community, have dehumanized themselves and will be treated accordingly.
if I were to say that Nazis dont deserve to live anywhere would I be dehumanizing myself ?
Hardly !
So now with you can take your bleeding heart attempt to justify blatant BS and try it on someone else whos fool enough to swallow it.