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		<title>By: nortbria</title>
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		<dc:creator>nortbria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eric been reading your blog on liberal blogs and violence, either you are a more patient man than me or have a lot thicker skin,as I have never tried to reason with those of rabid tongue and mind in their own pits. About your assertion that we will not, as conservatives, retaliate as in a tooth for a tooth, I am not so sure. The problem is a matter of our survival. As long as conservatives could feel that this too shall pass, People of the Book type morality allowed  the turning of the other cheek. God would avenge your wrongs and all that. However, we are entering a period of history where the liberal left is unhinged enough to try exterminating conservative thought ( and any conservative not willing to change affiliation) quicker than you can say "burn'em!" Von Clausewitz stated that the only way to defeat an enemy is to be willing to use the same tactics against them that they employ ( or worse), because to deny your forces a tactic out of moral qualms may well lead to the annihilation of your nation. Machiavelli stated that it is better to be feared than loved, and conservatives have gotten where they are because they would rather be loved than be in power. We are in a war for the soul  and destiny of our nation, and liberals (even though a lot of them do not believe in souls, bless their grinchy hearts) know this truth and act on it. Conservatives really cannot comprehend the depravity and depth of hatred liberals have for them, but viewed through the lens of an eternal warfare between good and evil, it makes perfect sense why they hate us so much. Lucifer, the son of the morning, was cast out of heaven for wanting the glory of the Father. His pride caused his fall, and now he wishes nothing more than to damn those who did not follow him and were deprived of a mortal experience. We got bodies and eventual resurrection, he and his followers do not. He hates righteousness, and all that is good (of God). Liberals are cut from the same cloth, because when you get right down to it, they either have deluded themselves about what they really believe in (IE they are conservatives but do not realize it yet, which is what I hope is the case with your girlfriend:-)), or they are actively fighting against God, because basic liberal tenets like abortion, gay rights, moral relativism, etc, cannot be squared with a God of laws and justice. Liberalism and God are diametrically opposed, when both are properly understood. Both Old and New Testaments talk about those who shall be sheep in wolves clothing, speaking the words of life but murdering men's souls. Now, what I want to make clear is that even though I am speaking from a scriptural standpoint, God works on the ground, so to speak. I am speaking of realpolitik, a pragmatic assessment of what the path ahead is. The scriptures tell what will happen, I try to understand and be prepared, so I and my family may not fear,but I guess that what I am trying to say is too many religious people are so blinded by this idea of turning the other cheek they forget the war history of the Jews under a wrathful God, the moneychangers in the Temple, the Sodom's of the world, and yes, even the Flood. It is not only just to act in defense of right, it is eventually required of all those who honor God. The imagery in Isaiah of Israel going through as a young lion among the wicked, sparing none, is not a pacifistic  one, nor of mercy either. Either we beat the liberals brutally and convincingly now  in the law, the ballot box, and the court of public opinion, or we  will be forced to do it later in the streets. Evil cannot co-exist with good, it can only be restrained and chained down to where it does the least harm: But let loose unrestrained on a supine and ungodly citizenry as we now have, the destruction of good  is the sure result. Liberals have through the Prop 8 fiasco shown themselves incapable of being governed by law (and as you noted, not one liberal is willing to call the gay activists down and discipline them), so the more their will is thwarted, the more violent they will become, until they either achieve their designs or they are met with sufficient pain to be persuaded of their folly. They are bullies, and spoiled fools whose bad manners have been tolerated far too long. Truly the Word is: Spare the rod, spoil the child (and ruin the nation).  Take care, Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eric been reading your blog on liberal blogs and violence, either you are a more patient man than me or have a lot thicker skin,as I have never tried to reason with those of rabid tongue and mind in their own pits. About your assertion that we will not, as conservatives, retaliate as in a tooth for a tooth, I am not so sure. The problem is a matter of our survival. As long as conservatives could feel that this too shall pass, People of the Book type morality allowed  the turning of the other cheek. God would avenge your wrongs and all that. However, we are entering a period of history where the liberal left is unhinged enough to try exterminating conservative thought ( and any conservative not willing to change affiliation) quicker than you can say &#8220;burn&#8217;em!&#8221; Von Clausewitz stated that the only way to defeat an enemy is to be willing to use the same tactics against them that they employ ( or worse), because to deny your forces a tactic out of moral qualms may well lead to the annihilation of your nation. Machiavelli stated that it is better to be feared than loved, and conservatives have gotten where they are because they would rather be loved than be in power. We are in a war for the soul  and destiny of our nation, and liberals (even though a lot of them do not believe in souls, bless their grinchy hearts) know this truth and act on it. Conservatives really cannot comprehend the depravity and depth of hatred liberals have for them, but viewed through the lens of an eternal warfare between good and evil, it makes perfect sense why they hate us so much. Lucifer, the son of the morning, was cast out of heaven for wanting the glory of the Father. His pride caused his fall, and now he wishes nothing more than to damn those who did not follow him and were deprived of a mortal experience. We got bodies and eventual resurrection, he and his followers do not. He hates righteousness, and all that is good (of God). Liberals are cut from the same cloth, because when you get right down to it, they either have deluded themselves about what they really believe in (IE they are conservatives but do not realize it yet, which is what I hope is the case with your girlfriend:-)), or they are actively fighting against God, because basic liberal tenets like abortion, gay rights, moral relativism, etc, cannot be squared with a God of laws and justice. Liberalism and God are diametrically opposed, when both are properly understood. Both Old and New Testaments talk about those who shall be sheep in wolves clothing, speaking the words of life but murdering men&#8217;s souls. Now, what I want to make clear is that even though I am speaking from a scriptural standpoint, God works on the ground, so to speak. I am speaking of realpolitik, a pragmatic assessment of what the path ahead is. The scriptures tell what will happen, I try to understand and be prepared, so I and my family may not fear,but I guess that what I am trying to say is too many religious people are so blinded by this idea of turning the other cheek they forget the war history of the Jews under a wrathful God, the moneychangers in the Temple, the Sodom&#8217;s of the world, and yes, even the Flood. It is not only just to act in defense of right, it is eventually required of all those who honor God. The imagery in Isaiah of Israel going through as a young lion among the wicked, sparing none, is not a pacifistic  one, nor of mercy either. Either we beat the liberals brutally and convincingly now  in the law, the ballot box, and the court of public opinion, or we  will be forced to do it later in the streets. Evil cannot co-exist with good, it can only be restrained and chained down to where it does the least harm: But let loose unrestrained on a supine and ungodly citizenry as we now have, the destruction of good  is the sure result. Liberals have through the Prop 8 fiasco shown themselves incapable of being governed by law (and as you noted, not one liberal is willing to call the gay activists down and discipline them), so the more their will is thwarted, the more violent they will become, until they either achieve their designs or they are met with sufficient pain to be persuaded of their folly. They are bullies, and spoiled fools whose bad manners have been tolerated far too long. Truly the Word is: Spare the rod, spoil the child (and ruin the nation).  Take care, Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Defense of conservatism a duty : Title of Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Defense of conservatism a duty : Title of Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Eric been reading your blog on liberal blogs and violence, either you are a more patient man than me or have a lot thicker skin,as I have never tried to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Norton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Defense of conservatism a duty ...&lt;/strong&gt;

Hi Eric been reading your blog on liberal blogs and violence, either
you are a more patient man than me or have a lot thicker skin,as I have
never tried to reason with those of rabid tongue and mind in their own
pits. About your assertion that we......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Defense of conservatism a duty &#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Hi Eric been reading your blog on liberal blogs and violence, either<br />
you are a more patient man than me or have a lot thicker skin,as I have<br />
never tried to reason with those of rabid tongue and mind in their own<br />
pits. About your assertion that we&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SRJeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>SRJeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"We are better than that."

Says it all, Eric.  While providing little solace, we conduct ourselves accordingly, as the Left embraces "fairness", we embrace "liberty".  I don't recall "fairness" in the founding documents, but, then again, I'm not on a Federal Bench.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We are better than that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Says it all, Eric.  While providing little solace, we conduct ourselves accordingly, as the Left embraces &#8220;fairness&#8221;, we embrace &#8220;liberty&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t recall &#8220;fairness&#8221; in the founding documents, but, then again, I&#8217;m not on a Federal Bench.</p>
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		<title>By: SRJeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>SRJeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Smaugger.  We can never repay you sufficiently.

J-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Smaugger.  We can never repay you sufficiently.</p>
<p>J-</p>
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		<title>By: Micky 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micky 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And a big thanks to you also bro</description>
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		<title>By: Smaug0829</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smaug0829</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jersey,

As a Desert Storm Vet i can honestly tell you we needed to go into Iraq. When we left Desert Storm and came back home, I told everyone I knew that we would be back in ten years. I was wrong it was 12. We should have finished the job when we where there the first  time.

Invading Iraq was not a mistake, but in the early planning of the war mistakes were made. This has since turned around with a better battle plan. Conditions are getting better on the ground and for the Iraqi People.

I would also like to say thank you to all my military Brothers and Sisters for a job well done and to keep up the good work. I wish i could be there with you, but i was injured in 97 and was med boarded out.

Semper Fidelis 

USMC 89-95 Army 96-98</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jersey,</p>
<p>As a Desert Storm Vet i can honestly tell you we needed to go into Iraq. When we left Desert Storm and came back home, I told everyone I knew that we would be back in ten years. I was wrong it was 12. We should have finished the job when we where there the first  time.</p>
<p>Invading Iraq was not a mistake, but in the early planning of the war mistakes were made. This has since turned around with a better battle plan. Conditions are getting better on the ground and for the Iraqi People.</p>
<p>I would also like to say thank you to all my military Brothers and Sisters for a job well done and to keep up the good work. I wish i could be there with you, but i was injured in 97 and was med boarded out.</p>
<p>Semper Fidelis </p>
<p>USMC 89-95 Army 96-98</p>
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		<title>By: Laree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric

Have you seen these photos circulated before? By GAWKER? Time Man of the Year a real Trend Setter. Well he does have a big following among the Pot Smokers..I don't know if they remember to vote though.

Oh No, how is this going to help Michelle’s children?

http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2008/12/obamas-panama-gold-time-one-toke-over.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric</p>
<p>Have you seen these photos circulated before? By GAWKER? Time Man of the Year a real Trend Setter. Well he does have a big following among the Pot Smokers..I don&#8217;t know if they remember to vote though.</p>
<p>Oh No, how is this going to help Michelle’s children?</p>
<p><a href="http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2008/12/obamas-panama-gold-time-one-toke-over.html" rel="nofollow">http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2008/12/obamas-panama-gold-time-one-toke-over.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Micky 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micky 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"First: It was not for us to “give” the Iraqis anything. We don't belong there and we never did. It was not our problem."

Says who ?  You ?
That'll go a long way, but only in a court of opinion.
The fact is that it was our problem in many ways other than WMD's.
The bleeding hearts cried to Clinton over the Kurds being gassed and he did nothing. If he did, it would of been the old cliche` that liberals start wars out of peace and the right only starts them out of selfish greed.
Had Clinton done something about it you would of been in the same situation we are in now, but under Clinton you would of said that its the intentions that justified it.
With liberals, intentions are all that counts.

You guys cant have it both ways. Acts against humanity are just that, no matter where they are.
Iraq was perceived, and rightly so, to be a future threat and had already been deemed a threat after shooting at our pilots and sending homicide bombers our way.
Parts of South Africa are not our problem but the bleeding hearts are asking why we don't make it our problem. Neither was Indonesia during the earth quakes.


Jersey, take your condescending more knowledgeable than thou crap and shove it.
It just makes you look like a pompous a$$.
Many people know more about middle eastern culture than you think, we just don't use it as a tool of arrogant display in order to question the validity of ones argument.
Most people are aware of the meaning behind the Arab use of shoes now only because of the little boy that was seen during the initial invasion repeatedly slapping the toppled statue of Saddam in the face with his slippers.
O.K ? You are not as enlightened as you would like to have us all believe.
The shoes represent one of the filthiest elements in an Arabs life which is why they also carry the same tradition as many Asian cultures do and we do here in Hawaii. That would be to take your shoes off before entering yours or any other house.
I grew up knowing this before you were even born as I've had to explain the tradition and its roots to many visitors.
Whether its about physically hurting someone or culture is irrelevant.
Please, try to pay attention.
Regardless of the cultural aspects the shoe STILL COULD OF INJURED BUSH !!!!
Get it ?
This lame a$$ justification of yours where you excuse the action by placing the cultural aspect up front only proves what I said up above.
And that is that intentions are the only thing that matter with liberals, not the means or the outcome.

Our good host would not ask a man to do something with his property that he did not want to do.
Ill go out on a limb and bet money that Eric would just leave if he thought he were being treated unfairly in the name of someone else's posterity.

I know I would. Sure, you can ask them to change but have no right to b*tch if they say no..

And then you try to justify yourself with blatant hypocrisy.
You say ethics are ethics and they are not arbitrary and subjective morays or personal rules.
Yet right behind that you say the golden rule "IS" subjective.

You cannot and never ever will be able to legislate morals or ethics.
Liberals have tried this repeatedly by dictating what morals and ethics should apply simply according to what their perspective is of moral and ethical behavior are.
You cant make people think the way you think they're supposed to think.

It would be highly immoral and unethical if someone were to come along and tell Eric how he must cater to his readers based on one mans interpretation of ethics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;First: It was not for us to “give” the Iraqis anything. We don&#8217;t belong there and we never did. It was not our problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>Says who ?  You ?<br />
That&#8217;ll go a long way, but only in a court of opinion.<br />
The fact is that it was our problem in many ways other than WMD&#8217;s.<br />
The bleeding hearts cried to Clinton over the Kurds being gassed and he did nothing. If he did, it would of been the old cliche` that liberals start wars out of peace and the right only starts them out of selfish greed.<br />
Had Clinton done something about it you would of been in the same situation we are in now, but under Clinton you would of said that its the intentions that justified it.<br />
With liberals, intentions are all that counts.</p>
<p>You guys cant have it both ways. Acts against humanity are just that, no matter where they are.<br />
Iraq was perceived, and rightly so, to be a future threat and had already been deemed a threat after shooting at our pilots and sending homicide bombers our way.<br />
Parts of South Africa are not our problem but the bleeding hearts are asking why we don&#8217;t make it our problem. Neither was Indonesia during the earth quakes.</p>
<p>Jersey, take your condescending more knowledgeable than thou crap and shove it.<br />
It just makes you look like a pompous a$$.<br />
Many people know more about middle eastern culture than you think, we just don&#8217;t use it as a tool of arrogant display in order to question the validity of ones argument.<br />
Most people are aware of the meaning behind the Arab use of shoes now only because of the little boy that was seen during the initial invasion repeatedly slapping the toppled statue of Saddam in the face with his slippers.<br />
O.K ? You are not as enlightened as you would like to have us all believe.<br />
The shoes represent one of the filthiest elements in an Arabs life which is why they also carry the same tradition as many Asian cultures do and we do here in Hawaii. That would be to take your shoes off before entering yours or any other house.<br />
I grew up knowing this before you were even born as I&#8217;ve had to explain the tradition and its roots to many visitors.<br />
Whether its about physically hurting someone or culture is irrelevant.<br />
Please, try to pay attention.<br />
Regardless of the cultural aspects the shoe STILL COULD OF INJURED BUSH !!!!<br />
Get it ?<br />
This lame a$$ justification of yours where you excuse the action by placing the cultural aspect up front only proves what I said up above.<br />
And that is that intentions are the only thing that matter with liberals, not the means or the outcome.</p>
<p>Our good host would not ask a man to do something with his property that he did not want to do.<br />
Ill go out on a limb and bet money that Eric would just leave if he thought he were being treated unfairly in the name of someone else&#8217;s posterity.</p>
<p>I know I would. Sure, you can ask them to change but have no right to b*tch if they say no..</p>
<p>And then you try to justify yourself with blatant hypocrisy.<br />
You say ethics are ethics and they are not arbitrary and subjective morays or personal rules.<br />
Yet right behind that you say the golden rule &#8220;IS&#8221; subjective.</p>
<p>You cannot and never ever will be able to legislate morals or ethics.<br />
Liberals have tried this repeatedly by dictating what morals and ethics should apply simply according to what their perspective is of moral and ethical behavior are.<br />
You cant make people think the way you think they&#8217;re supposed to think.</p>
<p>It would be highly immoral and unethical if someone were to come along and tell Eric how he must cater to his readers based on one mans interpretation of ethics.</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey McJones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jersey McJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Micky, just a couple points...

First:  It was not for us to "give" the Iraqis anything.  We don't belong there and we never did.  It was not our problem.  I understand the contempt that man felt for Bush.  Personally, I wouldn't stand in the same room with the president.  I'd just up and walk out.  I wouldn't throw my shoes at him, though.  He's not worth the statement.  But to that Iraqi, apparently it was worth it.  If you knew anything about Middle Eastern culture, you'd understand what the throwing of shoes means, and it's not about physically hurting anyone. 

Second; ethics are ethics, they are not arbitrary and subjective morays or personal rules.  But if you're going to follow rules, the Golden Rule, subjective though it may be, is a good place to start.  I don't think our good host would like his words changed for posterity without so much as a notation.

JMJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micky, just a couple points&#8230;</p>
<p>First:  It was not for us to &#8220;give&#8221; the Iraqis anything.  We don&#8217;t belong there and we never did.  It was not our problem.  I understand the contempt that man felt for Bush.  Personally, I wouldn&#8217;t stand in the same room with the president.  I&#8217;d just up and walk out.  I wouldn&#8217;t throw my shoes at him, though.  He&#8217;s not worth the statement.  But to that Iraqi, apparently it was worth it.  If you knew anything about Middle Eastern culture, you&#8217;d understand what the throwing of shoes means, and it&#8217;s not about physically hurting anyone. </p>
<p>Second; ethics are ethics, they are not arbitrary and subjective morays or personal rules.  But if you&#8217;re going to follow rules, the Golden Rule, subjective though it may be, is a good place to start.  I don&#8217;t think our good host would like his words changed for posterity without so much as a notation.</p>
<p>JMJ</p>
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