The IPCC models are flawed.

http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results.html?artId=15727

Their computers dont have the capability to project what they have been telling us will happen. Instead selective and incomplete data is being used from the models whithin the IPCC to collaborte with among many things …Obamas 48 billion dollar global poverty tax.
Which is designed under the guise of helping third world countries to better eliminate their carbon footprints as result of the industrialization our aid will bring.
Its nothing more than wealth redistribution on a global scale.

So far Obama , through his choices has appeared to be a little further left of center than what makes me comfortable and a little closer to the middle than many who voted for him expected.
But I wouldnt get too comfortable if I were anyone.
My belief is that he will use environmentalism as his ace in the hole in order to promote his socialist agenda.
Environmentalism is the perfect tool to usher in socialism while many would not be much the wiser to whats going on right under their noses.
Energy consumption, distribution and regulation will be the start of class warfare like weve never seen.

Does the Nobel Peace Prize Selection Committee ever rescind one of its priceless awards and demand return of its money? If not, it should.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), divvied up the Nobel Peace Prize (Nobelpriset, in Swedish) cash with Al Gore in 2007, splitting the approximate $1.6 million award. Both should cough up their shares since neither has advanced the cause of world peace even an iota.

Gore should have rejected it on the spot, given the fraudulent nature of An Inconvenient Truth, the “documentary” which won him an Academy Award in Hollywood and which must have convinced the Swedes that he knew what he was babbling about. He didn’t, as shown by, among many other sources, this Canadian analysis which described the award as a “travesty:” http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/261.

Now the IPCC has been outed for what it truly is, a group of intergovernmental blowhards pretending to be climatologists committed to saving the planet from itself–and from Americans dirtying up the atmosphere. In actuality, the IPCC now concedes its dire predictions as to the effects and even the existence of global warming aren’t even predictions. Rather, they are “projections:” http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/7116.

The IPCC began its word play in 2001 when it altered its nomenclature: “Projections are distinguished from predictions in order to emphasise that projections involve assumptions concerning e.g. future socio-economic and technological developments that may or may not be realised and are therefore subject to substantial uncertainty.”

Huh? Simplified, that means the IPCC admitted it guesses the future and may very well be totally wrong. Expressed another way, it assumes the climate’s future is predicated on what could happen, and we all know what happens when we assume.

I’m guessing those climatologists looked out a window, sniffed the air, and decided to hedge their language though not their cataclysmic “projections,” which are dependent on which direction the political winds are blowing. In the case of the IPCC, its prevailing winds are always blowing from the Left of the political spectrum.

It’s sad really what has happened to the Nobel Peace Prize. It is now conferred…

(Read the rest of this article at http://genelalor.com/.)

That’s part of my point.
This is Eric’s blog, he writes the articles and we respond.
What you did was to deposit an article onto his blog that was of minimal if any relation any of the topic(s)
I myself stray from the topic very often but unlike you I don’t have the arrogance to just walk in and start my own topic.
Eric has written many articles relating to Jewish/Israeli relations and you could of made your little contribution there instead

Berlet;
“I also never even obliquely suggested that that cover-up was on a par with the threat to our nation of Muslims terrorism. Since you say you consulted my blog, surely you must be aware that I wrote and published a book on that very threat, which book also relates incidents of past sins of Christians.”

You compartmentalized the “perceived” cover up and relations with Israel and Jews along with other threats to our country.
Please, give me a break. You say the reason you blog is to “take on any and all forces and agents which I feel threaten America’s interests.”
And below you list them as a threat to future and sovereignty.
Its right there , so please don’t insult my intelligence any further. It just makes you look like the one who is lacking.

Berlet;
“Those include but are not limited to radical Muslim terrorism, the inherent dangers of homosexual efforts to undermine the nation’s values, the growing dominance of Hispanics throughout the nation, and, yes, the so-called “Jewish lobby,” which I and many others feel is a threat to our sovereignty and future. ”

You can spin this anyway you want and try to dress it up with other supposed concerns but I’m not an idiot and I know when someone is drawing attention to an issue out of nothing but contempt.
What would Israel’s motive have been?
Your argument that Israel knowingly attacked an American ship lacks a convincing motive.
The only reason the questions wont go away is because people like you ardent getting the answers you want.
You’re about on the same level as those who keep asking why Bush had a banner behind him saying “mission accomplished” when the war was clearly not over.
As many times as I’ve shown the trail that lead to that banner with quotes from everyone from the capt of the ship to members of the pentagon they still keep asking the same question in hopes that their BDS will get its fix.

I don’t care if you wrote the article the day you were born.
The timing of the presentation of your article on “THIS” blog seems to have only one purpose.
And that would be to contribute to the defamation of Israel and Jewish people.
Investigation for what ?

There seems to of already been many investigations into the matter, most of which conclude it was a result of mis communication and/or mistaken identity.
I’ve looked into the matter in the last day or so visiting other sites with interpretations from sources that are much more reputable than the ones you supply that mostly draw me to my original conclusion that you just don’t like Jews.

As far as you wanting a congressional investigation goes I doubt there is or will be a need for one seeing as how congress has probably already reviewed the findings from the list of investigations below and determined any further look into it would be a waste of time.

U.S. Naval Court of Inquiry of June 1967
Joint Chief of Staff’s Report of June 1967.
CIA Intelligence Memorandums of June 1967
Clark Clifford Report of July 1967
Senate Foreign Relations Committee Testimony of July 1967
House Armed Services Committee Investigation of 1971
The NSA History Report of 1981

“I will say also that you seem filled with venom”

Yea, that happens when snakes take a shot at me.

“not to mention skilled with tossing around offensive, ad hominem, vitriolic diction. ”

Thats what happens around me when people try to start sh*t thats only designed to hurt others out of bigotry.
And its not half as bad as the poison you’re spreading

“I won’t try to compete with that either. I will say that you tend to be very repetitive.”

I doubt that you could.
I do repeat myself when angered.
I guess its beter than trying to smear an entire prople.
Rather, why dont you attempt to answer the questions I asked for a start ?

I will say also that you seem filled with venom, not to mention skilled with tossing around offensive, ad hominem, vitriolic diction. I won’t try to compete with that either. I will say that you tend to be very repetitive.

I have focused on a single incident, the cover-up of the truth concerning the USS Liberty. How and why you persist in citing extraneous issues such as the Palestinian question and Christianity is a mystery to me. I wrote an article, not a dissertation.

I also never even obliquely suggested that that cover-up was on a par with the threat to our nation of Muslims terrorism. Since you say you consulted my blog, surely you must be aware that I wrote and published a book on that very threat, which book also relates incidents of past sins of Christians.

I’d be more than happy to provide you with a complementary copy should you wish to read it and if you cannot afford to purchase same.

Finally, as to the timeliness of my Liberty article, as I stated, it was actually originally posted last January and is as relevant today as it was in 1967 since the questions won’t go away. There has never been a congressional investigation, either, which is more than odd.

O.K.

In all fairness I went to your blog and read many of your posts which I agree with and as a result, I may have to take back some of my criticisms and contempt for you.
On the other hand, I don’t think it would be unfair to blame me for my suspicions/accusations since the timing of your post was rather irrelevant and disconnected to anything of topic in Eric’s post and it was deposited at many blogs as I suspected.
Also, since 1967 Israel has made reparations, apologized, and become one of Americas closest ally’s I find it conspicuous that you still have reservations about Israel and display a sense of hostility in the sense that you feel they are a threat to our interests and security.
Like most Americans I feel they are quite the opposite and that there are more actual and existential threats such as and which you mentioned were the immigration of Hispanics on a scale which could one day change the fabric our country was built on. Not only that but its an incredible strain on our economy as it is today.
I don’t see how Israel or the Jewish movement in our country even comes close to that kind of threat.
Nor do I see how any perceived threat of Jews could even come close to the threat posed to us by radical Muslims which you mention, and would of certainly been a greater concern to bring up than Israel or Jews.

Your posting the story of the Liberty at this point and time along with what seems to be some need to settle a score is much like bringing up Pearl Harbor all over again as if enough hasn’t been done already on the part of both the U.S. and Japan to settle the score and move on with our lives.
Its like you want to open an old wound and sprinkle some salt on it out of a lingering anger.
Tell me what good it would it do to present this to Israel right now, or drive the story into the minds of every American right now ?

In addition, if you had at least explained in some detail as to why and what it is about Israel you feel is such a threat today you would not be conceived by me as just launching a spiteful attack.
Is it because you feel that they do not bargain with Palestine on a level that would advantageous to Middle Eastern or American security ?
What demographics (if any) of the American Jewish community do you feel is a threat to our interests and security ?

When you do not make any of these points clear but simply issue a sentiment that they are dangerous you pretty much come out looking like a bigot.
Can you understand that ?

“As a person of Irish extraction and a Catholic, I would feel the same about Ireland and the Vatican should, hypothetically, either pose a serious threat to my country.”

“Hypothetically” ? “Should” ?

I am a Christian myself but find it rather curious that it seems you conceive Christianity exempt from any criticism, yet you have said that your issue is more with the country of Israel than it is with Jews and you still mention the Jewish lobby as a concern.

Is it the Jewish movement in this country (American citizens by the way) that has your concern or Israel, or both ?

Also, in your attempt to refute my claim that your initial comment was a stock comment that was cut and pasted to any blog that had sentiments or keywords relating to Israel you said;

“My article was neither a “stock comment” nor a randomly cut and pasted piece.”

But yet you have done exactly that as you mentioned in your own blog.

“Because I posted my previous article, “The Shame of the USS Liberty,” on other websites I have been inundated with accusations of anti-Semitism, threats of expulsion from those sites, and even revocation, sans explanation, of my posting privileges by one, FreeRepublic.com.”

In lesser terms, you’re just running around spamming with eloquence.

Point being, I think you’re a bit full of it as evidence shows that you have deposited this story on many websites.
The many accusations of anti semitism you mention that have been leveled against you also stand by and bolster my same exact feeling that you are an anti semite which only makes it obvious that I’m not alone in my ability to read between the lines and see what your objective is.

You have obviously singled out Jews and Israel as threat to our security, which I find absurd and disgusting.
Personally, what I find even more disgusting is that you don’t have the balls to just come out and display your contempt in a more honest means and you instead resort to these sublime and associative techniques of casting hate for Jews.

You may find that a rather steep accusation, I don’t care, at least I have the balls to say what I think is true.

Toward the ends of that promotion, as you have probably noted, I take on any and all forces and agents which I feel threaten America’s interests.

Those include but are not limited to radical Muslim terrorism, the inherent dangers of homosexual efforts to undermine the nation’s values, the growing dominance of Hispanics throughout the nation, and, yes, the so-called “Jewish lobby,” which I and many others feel is a threat to our sovereignty and future.

Although that is often construed by Jews to mean anti-Semitism, it is nothing of the kind.

As a person of Irish extraction and a Catholic, I would feel the same about Ireland and the Vatican should, hypothetically, either pose a serious threat to my country.

Considering those hypotheticals, if I were of some other national extraction or of some other religion and criticized undue and excessive influence in America by Ireland or the Vatican, would I therefore be considered anti-Irish American or anti-Catholic?

I think not.

As a foreign power, Israel should, as you wrote, also be “fair game” without my being subject to venomous accusations, such as Micky2’s, who concludes his diatribe against me by saying, “Me thinks [sic] you just don’t like Jews,” which is an irrational conclusion to make based on my USS Liberty article.

I thought that, before responding to Micky2 with further documentation, I should first respond to your questions and concerns: I have no issues with regard to Jews but I do have issues with regard to Israel which, to me, is an entirely different matter. I also have issues with France and Canada, which doesn’t equate with not liking Frenchmen or Canadians.

Furthermore, I despise Barack Hussein Obama, which does not equate with despising all African Americans.

Finally, I don’t consider my assessment of the Israeli attack on the Liberty to be harsh at all. It is as forthright and honest as the assessment of Admiral Thomas H. Moorer’s (U.S. Navy, Retired): http://www.gtr5.com/evidence/moorer.htm.

As Jersey McJones in a followup post wrote, “Yes, it appears it was intentional at the time. They were hoping to sink the ship so no one would be the wiser, but they couldn’t get it down.”

Is Jersey therefore anti-Semitic? Again, I think not.

Eric, whether you agree to add my website, http://genelalor.com/, to your blogroll is of far less importance to me than your, and Micky 2’s, understanding my point of view re: Israel and the Jewish lobby in America.

I will be posting this response on TygrrrrExpress, but not your query which was sent to me and not intended for public consumption.

Regards and may God bless and save America!

Israel, like evry other ally of ours, has had it’s ups and downs in relations. I once read (don’t recall where) that more Israelis have been caught spying in and on America than any other nation on the planet. And I do remember the Liberty story, and yes, it appears it was intentional at the time. They were hoping to sink the ship so no one would be the wiser, but they couldn’t get it down, so the story has since grown into a life of its own.

But lets not get all crazy about this - we’ve been known to do a lot worse ourselves, and for much lesser cause.

You have to remember that Israel was dead set against NATO or the UN, France, Britain or America, stepping into the Sinai situation, just as to this day they don’t want any of said bunch involved in the West Bank, Gaza or the Golan Heights. Israel wanted the Sinai as a bargaining chip at the table with Egypt, which had always been its greatest threat of a neighbor. Egypt was the one country with both an Israeli border and a military that was truly formidible - stronger than the militaries of Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Saudi Arabia (and, at the time, Iraq as well) combined. There was also a popular, if unspoken, desire in Israel to keep the Sinai, just as with the occupied territories today. The last thing they wanted was the UN or America, or whoever, permanently sitting there, removing Israeli’s position at the bargaining table and squelching dreams of expansion.

Now, this is all pretty understandable, especially when you consider just how tenuous Israeli’s survival seemed at the time, how their population then was growing exponentially, and how the memories of WWII and its aftermath were still quite fresh in their minds. The USS Liberty, both literally and figuratively, got caught in the crossfire. It would have been best if we’d just stayed out of the way, but by 1967, staying out of the way of anything had become anathema to American foreign policy, and it’s repeatedly bitten us in our collective @$$ ever since.

Its an interesting story, and bears remembrance, but Israel apologized and paid reparations and has done nothing of the sort ever since, so the only reason I could imagine anyone belaboring this “tale” is that they have some personal problem with Israel. To each his own, but least be honest about it.

JMJ

Why don’t you just come out and say what it is you have to say ?
And please, spare me the over done grandiose patriotism by suggesting that I do not recognize truth in the same manner you do.
A soldiers death is tragic no matter how it happens, but even more tragic when someone attributes it to that of an ally’s actions through nothing on his part but conjured up speculation and delusional conspiracy theories.

Tell me.
What exactly is the change in this case that you would be expecting from Obama ?
You do not make this clear but seem through some suggestive references that he should maybe issue some sort of ultimatum or pressure on Israel to re pay for what you only “THINK” they are responsible for ?
Do you believe it was intentional or deliberate ?
Have some balls, just come out and say it.

Lets put the issue of the soldiers deaths aside for a second and just concentrate on the attack itself and what you believe the motivation or causes were.
Since my last visit I have gone to your references/sources and links and read them. Though I don’t really want to listen to hours of verbal testimony, it seems that you really at this point know nothing more than anyone else does today as your sources more than once make it clear that> ” It is not NSA’s intention to prove or disprove any one set of conclusions, many of which can be drawn from a thorough review of this material. Instead, through these public releases, we intend to make as much information as possible available for the many scholars, historians, academia, and members of the general public who find interest in analyzing the information and forming their own conclusions. ”

So you see, there is nothing to “REFUTE” as there are no facts dictating what the motive was, or real conclusion to this other than the ones you draw based on your own bias and the fact that US soldiers were killed.

Obama already has enough problems with his position on Israel to where even Jesse Jackson basically said that if Obama wins this election Israel is screwed.
Obama re opening this and digging for what I think you would like to hear is the last thing he probably wants to do if he’s going to have America perceive him as any kind of partner with Israel in the future as an ally.

Don’t use a soldiers death to cast doubt on someone else’s patriotism just because they don’t agree with you.
Its unimaginative, cheap and sleazy.

Me thinks you just don’t like Jews.