Comments on: The stock market will be fine http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/11/the-stock-market-will-be-fine/ Drinking the love from her Holy Grail Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:01:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Jarrow http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/11/the-stock-market-will-be-fine/#comment-11964 Jarrow Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:39:52 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=2097#comment-11964 I think the market will go down to at least 7,000 and possibly even 6,000. We are so mired in debt and the international situation is so messed up as well that it seems unlikely that a further reduction in value is not likely. As the increasing level of debt starts to effect the economy even more than it has, there will be (further) inflation for the working class and (further) deflation for the capital class, i.e., asset depreciation. I do not disagree with the stratgegy of buying but I would wait a bit longer unless you can foresee plays like buying Citibank before their last bailout. Save up your money for another year at least. If things do not get better wait another year, but then, there may be a slight rise before another big dip. We are in deep dooooo..... The best thing that can be done is to get US off imported oil. That would be to mandate the building of flex fuel vehicles that can burn ethanol an methanol fuels and fund the building of the transportation and energy infrustructure to deliver it. It would be worth over $1 trillion a year to the economy and start to turn things around -- while reducing our trade deficit hundreds of billions and increasing tax revenues without increasing taxes. It would be a win-win-win. Jarrow I think the market will go down to at least 7,000 and possibly even 6,000. We are so mired in debt and the international situation is so messed up as well that it seems unlikely that a further reduction in value is not likely. As the increasing level of debt starts to effect the economy even more than it has, there will be (further) inflation for the working class and (further) deflation for the capital class, i.e., asset depreciation.
I do not disagree with the stratgegy of buying but I would wait a bit longer unless you can foresee plays like buying Citibank before their last bailout. Save up your money for another year at least. If things do not get better wait another year, but then, there may be a slight rise before another big dip. We are in deep dooooo…..
The best thing that can be done is to get US off imported oil. That would be to mandate the building of flex fuel vehicles that can burn ethanol an methanol fuels and fund the building of the transportation and energy infrustructure to deliver it. It would be worth over $1 trillion a year to the economy and start to turn things around — while reducing our trade deficit hundreds of billions and increasing tax revenues without increasing taxes. It would be a win-win-win.
Jarrow

]]> By: Fausta’s Blog » Blog Archive » Thanksgiving costumes, Venezuela’s Opposition Scores Key Victories, the bailouts, and friends’ roundup http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/11/the-stock-market-will-be-fine/#comment-11444 Fausta’s Blog » Blog Archive » Thanksgiving costumes, Venezuela’s Opposition Scores Key Victories, the bailouts, and friends’ roundup Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:16:07 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=2097#comment-11444 [...] Tygrrr Express is optimistic this week, and explains why The stock market will be fine. [...] [...] Tygrrr Express is optimistic this week, and explains why The stock market will be fine. [...]

]]> By: Micky 2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/11/the-stock-market-will-be-fine/#comment-11427 Micky 2 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:32:44 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=2097#comment-11427 Jersey. Obama just wants to keep feeding and bailing out failure. He is the one who is and will be revisiting the mistakes made in the 30s and 40s. Were not stupid Jersey, we read, we remember and say from that what reflects our opinons and sentiments. Its really you who looks like the nut when you blab off all the really nice things you say about fairly educated folks like... Internet plants, consistantly, utterly, indefatiquably wrong all the time, you cons are all completely insane, fall for this shlock. lead in our water dizzy,not real Dont tempt me to pull out quotes from you that are quite simply some of the most hals a$$ crap I've ever heard. The elaboration on the vocabulary just makes it look like you're trying to hard to be a complete idealistic zealot that cant see anything but bad un less its your recipe. I dont know, I think maybe your difference with Eric may be more an educational/intellectual one rather than partisan in the case with the market. Its what he does, and Im sure he knows a hell of a lot about his profession than you do. But then again, I'm not surprised, you know it all, you even tried to tell me, a professional chef and restaurant manager how to run a restaurant after you only slung hash in some greasy spoon somehwere at one time. Jersey.
Obama just wants to keep feeding and bailing out failure.
He is the one who is and will be revisiting the mistakes made in the 30s and 40s.

Were not stupid Jersey, we read, we remember and say from that what reflects our opinons and sentiments.

Its really you who looks like the nut when you blab off all the really nice things you say about fairly educated folks like…

Internet plants, consistantly, utterly, indefatiquably wrong all the time, you cons are all completely insane, fall for this shlock. lead in our water dizzy,not real

Dont tempt me to pull out quotes from you that are quite simply some of the most hals a$$ crap I’ve ever heard.

The elaboration on the vocabulary just makes it look like you’re trying to hard to be a complete idealistic zealot that cant see anything but bad un less its your recipe.

I dont know, I think maybe your difference with Eric may be more an educational/intellectual one rather than partisan in the case with the market.
Its what he does, and Im sure he knows a hell of a lot about his profession than you do.

But then again, I’m not surprised, you know it all, you even tried to tell me, a professional chef and restaurant manager how to run a restaurant after you only slung hash in some greasy spoon somehwere at one time.

]]> By: Pandora http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/11/the-stock-market-will-be-fine/#comment-11424 Pandora Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:17:22 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=2097#comment-11424 This is one of the most intelligent and well thought-out pieces on our economy that I have read in the past few weeks. You also have a grasp of what makes Pres-Elect Obama tick; that is, what his true agenda is. The hard Left really thought he was One of Them. He is not. Neither is he on the Right, but in the center, as you stated. Neither is he prepared to pay for Peggy the Moocher's mortgage. It's just too bad that there are so many naive people duped into believing that Obama is their saviour. He is not. He is the President Elect of our country, and I think he bit off more than he could chew. I feel sort of sorry for him. Still, he's got a bevy of advisers all around him, even if they advise him poorly. When that happens, he can blame them when things start going really wrong, as he is merely a puppet in their very capable hands. If anyone wants to see capitalism in action, go to Las Vegas and watch people blowing their money in the slots. Now, that's where a lot of hard-earned savings are going, but who cares? Aren't we suppose to share the wealth? By the way, I didn't wager one penny when I was there two weeks ago, not wishing to share my wealth with anyone. Perhaps I have contributed to the depression by not flushing my precious cash down the toilet, i.e. the slot machines. I prefer to spend money for something tangible, something I can see and feel immediately, like shoes or a new coat. The malls are full of people, not just window shopping, but spending money. They have shopping bags. Wall Street will be fine, as you said. This is one of the most intelligent and well thought-out pieces on our economy that I have read in the past few weeks. You also have a grasp of what makes Pres-Elect Obama tick; that is, what his true agenda is. The hard Left really thought he was One of Them. He is not. Neither is he on the Right, but in the center, as you stated. Neither is he prepared to pay for Peggy the Moocher’s mortgage. It’s just too bad that there are so many naive people duped into believing that Obama is their saviour. He is not. He is the President Elect of our country, and I think he bit off more than he could chew. I feel sort of sorry for him. Still, he’s got a bevy of advisers all around him, even if they advise him poorly. When that happens, he can blame them when things start going really wrong, as he is merely a puppet in their very capable hands. If anyone wants to see capitalism in action, go to Las Vegas and watch people blowing their money in the slots. Now, that’s where a lot of hard-earned savings are going, but who cares? Aren’t we suppose to share the wealth? By the way, I didn’t wager one penny when I was there two weeks ago, not wishing to share my wealth with anyone. Perhaps I have contributed to the depression by not flushing my precious cash down the toilet, i.e. the slot machines. I prefer to spend money for something tangible, something I can see and feel immediately, like shoes or a new coat. The malls are full of people, not just window shopping, but spending money. They have shopping bags. Wall Street will be fine, as you said.

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/11/the-stock-market-will-be-fine/#comment-11423 Jersey McJones Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:01:03 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=2097#comment-11423 Micky, what the heck are you talking about? Obama hasn't done anything yet! And what exactly is he proposing that resembles "the same mistakes" - and what "mistakes" are you even talking about??? And again, how in living h#ll does doing the same things that caused this mess make this mess better??? You guys are living on another planet, I swear! Just how many times do you have to see your ideology fall flat on it's face, causing ridiculous woe and misery, before you finally man-up and realize that you're just plain wrong??? It's getting to the point that I'm not so sure you guys are even real! Maybe your just internet plants, I don't know! I can't imagine what it must be like to be so consistantly, utterly, indefatiquably wrong all the time! I'm beginning to think you cons are all completely insane! I mean, I can undertand the wealthy profiteering from the miserable failure that is conservatism, trying to rationalize and justify their behvaior and ideology in order to sleep at night, or at least to avoid facing the guillotines, but what I can't figure is how regular middle and working class people fall for this shlock. I mean <em>really</em>? You <em>really</em> still think tax cuts for the wealthy, free trade, and deregulation - all the &^%%$# time - are good ideas? Now? Even now? Really? Still wanna run that race to the bottom? Really? Really??? Are you sure your water is safe to drink? Maybe a little too much lead? Do you feel dizzy all the time? And perpetual war? Really? You still think that's a good idea? Don't see any faux Keynesian irony in that? When you look in the mirror, do you think perhaps you're actually watching the Fox "News" channel? C'mon guys!!! Get real!!! JMJ Micky, what the heck are you talking about? Obama hasn’t done anything yet! And what exactly is he proposing that resembles “the same mistakes” - and what “mistakes” are you even talking about???

And again, how in living h#ll does doing the same things that caused this mess make this mess better???

You guys are living on another planet, I swear! Just how many times do you have to see your ideology fall flat on it’s face, causing ridiculous woe and misery, before you finally man-up and realize that you’re just plain wrong??? It’s getting to the point that I’m not so sure you guys are even real! Maybe your just internet plants, I don’t know! I can’t imagine what it must be like to be so consistantly, utterly, indefatiquably wrong all the time! I’m beginning to think you cons are all completely insane! I mean, I can undertand the wealthy profiteering from the miserable failure that is conservatism, trying to rationalize and justify their behvaior and ideology in order to sleep at night, or at least to avoid facing the guillotines, but what I can’t figure is how regular middle and working class people fall for this shlock. I mean really? You really still think tax cuts for the wealthy, free trade, and deregulation - all the &^%%$# time - are good ideas? Now? Even now? Really? Still wanna run that race to the bottom? Really? Really??? Are you sure your water is safe to drink? Maybe a little too much lead? Do you feel dizzy all the time? And perpetual war? Really? You still think that’s a good idea? Don’t see any faux Keynesian irony in that? When you look in the mirror, do you think perhaps you’re actually watching the Fox “News” channel? C’mon guys!!! Get real!!!

JMJ

]]> By: Micky 2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/11/the-stock-market-will-be-fine/#comment-11422 Micky 2 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:49:23 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=2097#comment-11422 "How is it that doing exactly everything that preceded this latest financial downturn would somehow repair the downturn?" Yea like the 30s and 40s ? Obama is making all the same mistakes that was made then. “How is it that doing exactly everything that preceded this latest financial downturn would somehow repair the downturn?”

Yea like the 30s and 40s ?
Obama is making all the same mistakes that was made then.

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/11/the-stock-market-will-be-fine/#comment-11421 Jersey McJones Tue, 25 Nov 2008 00:50:17 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=2097#comment-11421 Hey look! A bump from those guys over at "Stop the ACLU"! Now, that's a fun bunch. If you ever wanted to see irrational hatred on full display, check out STACLU. What a bunch. God forbid we have people out there who support our civil liberties. Jeez. JMJ Hey look! A bump from those guys over at “Stop the ACLU”! Now, that’s a fun bunch. If you ever wanted to see irrational hatred on full display, check out STACLU. What a bunch. God forbid we have people out there who support our civil liberties. Jeez.

JMJ

]]> By: Monday Night Links : Stop The ACLU http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/11/the-stock-market-will-be-fine/#comment-11420 Monday Night Links : Stop The ACLU Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:32:08 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=2097#comment-11420 [...] Bloggers Select Their Least Favorite People On The Left (2008 Edition) Tygrrrr Express: The Stock Market Will Be Fine Thomas Brewton: Be Thankful Changes at the Pink Flamingo Blog Linkzona: Winter of our Disscontent [...] [...] Bloggers Select Their Least Favorite People On The Left (2008 Edition) Tygrrrr Express: The Stock Market Will Be Fine Thomas Brewton: Be Thankful Changes at the Pink Flamingo Blog Linkzona: Winter of our Disscontent [...]

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/11/the-stock-market-will-be-fine/#comment-11419 Jersey McJones Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:07:28 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=2097#comment-11419 Laree, a lot of people don't care to be referred to as "Melungeon." I have to say, you have a rather strange facination with race. JMJ Laree, a lot of people don’t care to be referred to as “Melungeon.”

I have to say, you have a rather strange facination with race.

JMJ

]]> By: Laree http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/11/the-stock-market-will-be-fine/#comment-11418 Laree Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:51:21 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=2097#comment-11418 http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html

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