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		<title>By: Laree</title>
		<link>http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/11/a-brilliant-debate-about-god/#comment-11232</link>
		<dc:creator>Laree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saxby Chambliss calling for a Money Bomb...Mana from Heaven?

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		<title>By: Micky 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micky 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way.
Taking things too literally is in a sense hijacking.
By holding any written word to its exact meaning when metaphors or colorful examples are used is much the same as taking things out of context.
The key word being "taking" which is much what hijacking is.
To take something and alter its use for ones own purpose.

Thats just some more left wing PC crap designed to change the speech and justify our enemy thereby degrading our efforts to be somehow injust.

These are the same brand of jerks that call murderous tyrants "freedom fighters"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way.<br />
Taking things too literally is in a sense hijacking.<br />
By holding any written word to its exact meaning when metaphors or colorful examples are used is much the same as taking things out of context.<br />
The key word being &#8220;taking&#8221; which is much what hijacking is.<br />
To take something and alter its use for ones own purpose.</p>
<p>Thats just some more left wing PC crap designed to change the speech and justify our enemy thereby degrading our efforts to be somehow injust.</p>
<p>These are the same brand of jerks that call murderous tyrants &#8220;freedom fighters&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Micky 2</title>
		<link>http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/11/a-brilliant-debate-about-god/#comment-11226</link>
		<dc:creator>Micky 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 05:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hardly think its bigoted to know for a fact that moderate Muslims who are devoute and adhere to the Koran as it dictates condemn the brand of Islam that is radical and subsbribes to radicalism.

You seem to forget that I do not adhere to traditional christianity and frown on organized religion, so you're whole concept of my beliefs is ignorant, to say the least. Generalized through idiocy at best.

The fact still remains, that you cannot refute.
Islam has a adopted the violence of cultures not there own and some out of convenience for ulterior purposes that we dont see in christianity today on scale that can even be compared.
Honor killings, genital mutilation are part of mainstream Islam, be it originating from Islam or not, they do it.
Kiliing of converts is still done in modern Islamic cultures also.
Not in modern christian communities.

Its not baiting.
Its actually the whole fish, the truth.

Fact.
Period.

See how far your athiest self gets in an Islamic tribe.
I'll bet you long in a heartbeat to be surrounded by christians once your head is on the chopping block.

"Not so long ago"


Thats my point Einstien.
Chritianity does not operate on ancient fire and brimstone penance like it used to , unless your a member of Westboro Baptist or some deranged christian occult.
As opposed to Islam which has hardly changed with the times at all.

I would say its actually bigoted on your part not to acknowledge that we are entitle to discriminate for just reason without prejudice or contempt, but to just look at the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hardly think its bigoted to know for a fact that moderate Muslims who are devoute and adhere to the Koran as it dictates condemn the brand of Islam that is radical and subsbribes to radicalism.</p>
<p>You seem to forget that I do not adhere to traditional christianity and frown on organized religion, so you&#8217;re whole concept of my beliefs is ignorant, to say the least. Generalized through idiocy at best.</p>
<p>The fact still remains, that you cannot refute.<br />
Islam has a adopted the violence of cultures not there own and some out of convenience for ulterior purposes that we dont see in christianity today on scale that can even be compared.<br />
Honor killings, genital mutilation are part of mainstream Islam, be it originating from Islam or not, they do it.<br />
Kiliing of converts is still done in modern Islamic cultures also.<br />
Not in modern christian communities.</p>
<p>Its not baiting.<br />
Its actually the whole fish, the truth.</p>
<p>Fact.<br />
Period.</p>
<p>See how far your athiest self gets in an Islamic tribe.<br />
I&#8217;ll bet you long in a heartbeat to be surrounded by christians once your head is on the chopping block.</p>
<p>&#8220;Not so long ago&#8221;</p>
<p>Thats my point Einstien.<br />
Chritianity does not operate on ancient fire and brimstone penance like it used to , unless your a member of Westboro Baptist or some deranged christian occult.<br />
As opposed to Islam which has hardly changed with the times at all.</p>
<p>I would say its actually bigoted on your part not to acknowledge that we are entitle to discriminate for just reason without prejudice or contempt, but to just look at the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Laree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jersey McJones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jersey McJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Micky, anti-theists, like Hitchens or Harris (and humbly myself), would argue that Muslims &lt;em&gt;are not&lt;/em&gt; "hijacking" or "twisting" the faith, but rather taking it too literally.  This is a cultural phenomenon.  In the past Jews and Christians have engaged in this sort of behavior as well.  In the case of Christians, not so long ago.

You're just being a bigot.

JMJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Micky, anti-theists, like Hitchens or Harris (and humbly myself), would argue that Muslims <em>are not</em> &#8220;hijacking&#8221; or &#8220;twisting&#8221; the faith, but rather taking it too literally.  This is a cultural phenomenon.  In the past Jews and Christians have engaged in this sort of behavior as well.  In the case of Christians, not so long ago.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re just being a bigot.</p>
<p>JMJ</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey McJones</title>
		<link>http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/11/a-brilliant-debate-about-god/#comment-11222</link>
		<dc:creator>Jersey McJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I for one don't know if he did or not, but I also don't know what's so controversial about it.  The vast majority of relevent archaeologists, historians and anthropologists agree that the story of Exodus is probably much more myth than history.  It is widely believed now that the Egyptians did not even keep slaves during that period, let alone entire enslaving entire tribes of people.  They have no record that resembles anything in the story of Exodus, but there are records depicting active working classes with trade guilds and contracts and such.  These scholars believe that the element if truth lies in the probability that some early Jewish or pre-Jewish tribe was employed by the Egyptian state and at some point relations became strained and the tribe moved on.  And the "Exodus" taking place during a yearly recession of the Nile makes perfect sense.  They probably finished work on a pyramid during the flood season, and then moved out in the off-season.  Sort of like a football team that only plays on muddy fields (LOL!).

As for the miraculous elements of Exodus, only Biblical literalists believe that nonsense.  It's not unusual at all to meet a Rabbi who would laugh at you for even suggesting the stories are literally true.

JMJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I for one don&#8217;t know if he did or not, but I also don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s so controversial about it.  The vast majority of relevent archaeologists, historians and anthropologists agree that the story of Exodus is probably much more myth than history.  It is widely believed now that the Egyptians did not even keep slaves during that period, let alone entire enslaving entire tribes of people.  They have no record that resembles anything in the story of Exodus, but there are records depicting active working classes with trade guilds and contracts and such.  These scholars believe that the element if truth lies in the probability that some early Jewish or pre-Jewish tribe was employed by the Egyptian state and at some point relations became strained and the tribe moved on.  And the &#8220;Exodus&#8221; taking place during a yearly recession of the Nile makes perfect sense.  They probably finished work on a pyramid during the flood season, and then moved out in the off-season.  Sort of like a football team that only plays on muddy fields (LOL!).</p>
<p>As for the miraculous elements of Exodus, only Biblical literalists believe that nonsense.  It&#8217;s not unusual at all to meet a Rabbi who would laugh at you for even suggesting the stories are literally true.</p>
<p>JMJ</p>
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		<title>By: Micky 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micky 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, you cant rebut so you call it "lowering the discourse "

Of course they allow it.
I never said they "adopted it as a "doctrine ritual"
I said that Islam has adopted it to their culture.
So please. if your going to lie dont talk to me about "discourse"

If you think that one culture, the  American culture, is going to be able to change a sect of Islam that hates our guts I will refer you to a good shrink.

As I said;

"Sheez, you are actually going to argue for a religion that beheads those that convert ?
Do Christians do that too ???"

Its painfully obvious that you've answered this quite clearly.

I'm not here to argue what is one of my biggest problems with religion, which would be the "organized" aspect of it.
I am stating that organized Islam has without a doubt embraced a cultural ritual coming from Indidan and African culture.

Its actaully not "baiting"
get of your PC horse.
Its a fitting label/description/characterization of a religion that even though you say is not open to "pick and choose" like christianity you forgot to take into account the hijacked version of Islam that dictates the death of all westerners, Jews and Christians.

Please, you idealogic ignorance is all too easy to place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, you cant rebut so you call it &#8220;lowering the discourse &#8221;</p>
<p>Of course they allow it.<br />
I never said they &#8220;adopted it as a &#8220;doctrine ritual&#8221;<br />
I said that Islam has adopted it to their culture.<br />
So please. if your going to lie dont talk to me about &#8220;discourse&#8221;</p>
<p>If you think that one culture, the  American culture, is going to be able to change a sect of Islam that hates our guts I will refer you to a good shrink.</p>
<p>As I said;</p>
<p>&#8220;Sheez, you are actually going to argue for a religion that beheads those that convert ?<br />
Do Christians do that too ???&#8221;</p>
<p>Its painfully obvious that you&#8217;ve answered this quite clearly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not here to argue what is one of my biggest problems with religion, which would be the &#8220;organized&#8221; aspect of it.<br />
I am stating that organized Islam has without a doubt embraced a cultural ritual coming from Indidan and African culture.</p>
<p>Its actaully not &#8220;baiting&#8221;<br />
get of your PC horse.<br />
Its a fitting label/description/characterization of a religion that even though you say is not open to &#8220;pick and choose&#8221; like christianity you forgot to take into account the hijacked version of Islam that dictates the death of all westerners, Jews and Christians.</p>
<p>Please, you idealogic ignorance is all too easy to place.</p>
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		<title>By: Micky 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micky 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, you cant rebut so you call it "lowering the discourse "

Of course they allow it.
I never said they "adopted it as a "doctrine ritual"
I said that Islam has adopted it to their culture.
So please. if your going to lie dont talk to me about "discourse"

If you think that one culture, the  American culture, is going to be able to change a sect of Islam that hates our guts I will refer you to a good shrink.

As I said;

"Sheez, you are actually going to argue for a religion that beheads those that convert ?
Do Christians do that too ???"

Its painfully obvious that you've answered this quite clearly.

I'm not here to argue what is one of my biggest problems with religion, which would be the "organized" aspect of it.
I am stating that organized Islam has without a doubt embraced a cultural ritual coming from Indidan and African culture.

Its actaully not "baiting"
get of your PC horse.
Its a fitting label/description/characterization of a religion that even though you say is not open to interpretation or variances like christianity you forgot to take into account the hijacked version of Islam that dictates the death of all westerners, Jews and Christians.

Please, you idealogic ignorance is all to easy to place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, you cant rebut so you call it &#8220;lowering the discourse &#8221;</p>
<p>Of course they allow it.<br />
I never said they &#8220;adopted it as a &#8220;doctrine ritual&#8221;<br />
I said that Islam has adopted it to their culture.<br />
So please. if your going to lie dont talk to me about &#8220;discourse&#8221;</p>
<p>If you think that one culture, the  American culture, is going to be able to change a sect of Islam that hates our guts I will refer you to a good shrink.</p>
<p>As I said;</p>
<p>&#8220;Sheez, you are actually going to argue for a religion that beheads those that convert ?<br />
Do Christians do that too ???&#8221;</p>
<p>Its painfully obvious that you&#8217;ve answered this quite clearly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not here to argue what is one of my biggest problems with religion, which would be the &#8220;organized&#8221; aspect of it.<br />
I am stating that organized Islam has without a doubt embraced a cultural ritual coming from Indidan and African culture.</p>
<p>Its actaully not &#8220;baiting&#8221;<br />
get of your PC horse.<br />
Its a fitting label/description/characterization of a religion that even though you say is not open to interpretation or variances like christianity you forgot to take into account the hijacked version of Islam that dictates the death of all westerners, Jews and Christians.</p>
<p>Please, you idealogic ignorance is all to easy to place.</p>
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		<title>By: parrothead</title>
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		<dc:creator>parrothead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a question?

Isn't Rabbi Wolpe the one who stirred up a ton of controversy a few years back by saying he did not believe the Exodus occurred at a Passover Sermon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a question?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t Rabbi Wolpe the one who stirred up a ton of controversy a few years back by saying he did not believe the Exodus occurred at a Passover Sermon?</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey McJones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jersey McJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think I expressed that one point correctly.  I should have said:

In this sense, it is a lot like Christianity, in which the various sects pick and choose what can and cannot be allowed by the faith - though Christians selectively pick and choose which tenets to follow, which to ignore, and which can or can not be incorporated into or allowed by the faith.

JMJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I expressed that one point correctly.  I should have said:</p>
<p>In this sense, it is a lot like Christianity, in which the various sects pick and choose what can and cannot be allowed by the faith - though Christians selectively pick and choose which tenets to follow, which to ignore, and which can or can not be incorporated into or allowed by the faith.</p>
<p>JMJ</p>
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