I truly have never understood anti-semitism. And as a devout follower of God, the closer I am to Him, the more I value all humanity, and in particular, the Jewish nation. Why? I have no idea. But the point is, those of us walking with God are not anti-semitic. The whole idea that Christians hate Jews is just not the truth. [I know, J, we've hashed this out before, and you're still wrong. Sorry] But I also have to admit to not understanding at ALL Zucker’s joking remarks about Jews, either.

When he said the first line - about nothing brings in money like Jews beating up on Christians thing - I would have walked out.

I did see ‘The Passion…’ and not without some trepidation. I had heard about how graphic it was, and I had been rather shocked by the anti- semitism attributed to Gibson because of it. Frankly, as a believer of many decades, I had never blamed Jews for Christ’s death, because it was WHY He came in the first place. Who did it and revenge for that, has never been a consideration in my faith, because what Christ DID is the point. Frankly, since the Jews were the chosen people in the first place, I have always had a great openness to them, and totally enjoyed all my relationships with the people I have considered my extended family. I as a gentile was not chosen, but grafted in by the act of Jesus death and resurrection - that is, from the view point of my faith.

The movie itself was about Jesus…. not about pointing fingers at the ones who did it. Quite frankly, I think the anti-semitic flap was a trumped up issue to be welded as an axe by the anti-christians in the entertainment world.

Therefore, I would have walked out after his first point. That was a purely offensive statement to me as a Christian, and as one who loves the Jewish nation for their stature in the Kingdom of God.

And Eric….no apology needed for you taking a stand on this issue. People are many things and Republicans are many peoples. For one group of people to insult the other, whether is it on grounds of political beliefs, or religion, or any OTHER reason, no matter WHO is present….is totally despicable.

Carry on.

Micky, the point is that if we just avoided the alligators, they wouldn’t bite us. We never had a problem with Islamic terrorists until we put troops on their soil.

JMJ

And ot think I live in an untra-Red part of Florida! Those “conservative republicans” sure watch out for the taxpayers dollars… NOT!

JMJ

get it ?

JMJ

“So this shmuck bypasses the county commission thanks to a legal loopholl and totally blows 2.4 million dollars on a helicopter…”

JMJ

“But you have never said that it is the fault of crazy religious Islamic terrorists that attacked America. You have always insinuated that it is solely OUR fault.”

And “insinuated,” huh? Look, if you poke an alligator it just might bite you. That doesn’t mean the alligator is a civilized human being and only attacked you because you poked it. It just means you shouldn’t mess around with alligators. Get me?

JMJ

Parrothead, we have the highest incarceration rate in the world. I’d say that pretty much qualifies us ass a police state.

Here’s some stats…

http://74.125.45.104/search?q=cache:LHjtRMfsuC4J:www.nccd-crc.org/nccd/pubs/2006nov_factsheet_incarceration.pdf+world+statistics+incarceration&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

The US incarcerates the largest number of people in the world.
The incarceration rate in the US is four times the world average.
Some individual US states imprison up to six times as many people as do nations of comparable population.
The US imprisons the most women in the world.
Crime rates do not account for incarceration rates.

http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd%5B347%5D=x-347-559597

We are among the world’s most surveilled populations.

Here’s just pot busts in NYC: http://digg.com/politics/NYC_s_Staggering_Arrest_Rate_for_Pot_Achieved_by_Deception

New study says New York’s cannabis crackdown is both racist and fraudulent - and that more have been arrested under Bloomberg than Giuliani. New York police have arrested almost 400,000 people for misdemeanor marijuana possession in the last decade. Last year, there were 39,700 such arrests, that cost the city $60 to $100 million.

Here’s the only countries known to have carried out the death penalty last year (perhaps Micky would like to compare us to these guys): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment

Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Belarus, Botswana, China, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Japan, Kuwait, Libya, North Korea, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, USA, Vietnam, Yemen.

Shall I go on?

“But you have never said that it is the fault of crazy religious Islamic terrorists that attacked America. You have always insinuated that it is solely OUR fault.”

Infidel,

I’ve been around, man. There’s a whole underbelly out there that too many Americans just don’t see. Look, I live in a great little town now. We have very little crime. But go to one of the local holes in the wall, and you’ll see the underbelly giggling away. It’s everywhere. And tere’s cops everywhere too, even in little towns like mine that could easily do with only half of them. Police are a welfare state of the authortarian politician, dependent on their entitlement to employment and authority. There’s money and power in law enforcement. That’s why pot’s still illegal.

Ya’ know, that was the whole knock on Giuliani from the Left about his affect on crime in NY. Most people never saw what those neighborhoods in certain parts of the burroughs were really like. I know. I saw them. I hung out in them and did “business” in them back in the Wild West days of the 80’s and early 90’s. And I when I lived near L.A for a couple years in the mid-late eighties, I had a friend, an R&B singer from Watts, and another friend from Compton. They showed me what those places were like. People just don’t know. But they watch the news, and the news mostly comes out of the metro areas, and they see the stories, and they get paranoid, and they pack their sleepy little towns with waaaaay too many cops, who then need something to do, and they Shark the streets, and bust potheads, and look for any excuse to bust anyone.

I have a great example. I live in a really sleepy little retirement town these days. This county is so small it only has three high schools and only two incorporated towns. Most of the retirees are midwestern WASPS, old union guys and such. Anyway, we have a sheriff and deputies here - no town cops and rarely do you see a statey. But the sheriff has broad powers and is elected (again, we’re one of the few countries on Earth stupid enough to ELECT FR!GG!N LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS!). So this shmuck bypasses the county commission thanks to a legal loopholl and totally blows 2.4 million dollars (this in a county with very little tax base) ostensibly for emergencies (that never happen). Now, the sheriff flies around town all day, making all that noise, looking for FR!GG!N METH LABS AND POT FIELDS IN A FR!GG!N RETIREMENT COMMUNITY!

You see what I’m talkin’ about here?

And “insinuated,” huh? Look, if you poke an alligator it just might bite you. That doesn’t mean the alligator is a civilized human being and only attacked you because you poked it. It just means you shouldn’t mess around with alligators. Get me?

JMJ

DENVER (AP) - Denver Broncos Hall of Fame quarterback John Elway is engaged to a former Oakland Raiders cheerleader.

Is this considered offensive Eric…should she be made to burn her Raiderette costume. ANd forgo any Raider reunions.

Having said all that I must admit I am confused. As a Jewish republican I just don’t see what the big deal is. I found none of the jokes funny or offensive. I would be more likely to be offended as a republican than as a Jew, but none of it was that big a deal. Of course I support boycotting Zucker’s movies not for political reasons but because most of them are more stupid than funny. Even the funny bits are so overdone that by 15 minutes into the movie its okay next joke please.

Unfortunately the Custer joke is taken by liberals to be a statement of fact which is far less tolerant than most of what I hear on the right. Witness Jersey’s diatribe.

I really don’t understand the Chicago Cannonball’s reaction. If she was offended I can understand holding it against Zucker, but not all Republicans or Republican events.