Comments on: Saddleback Smackdown http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/08/saddleback-smackdown/ Drinking the love from her Holy Grail Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:06:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: ajmontana http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/08/saddleback-smackdown/#comment-9239 ajmontana Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:35:39 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=648#comment-9239 “Faux News Alert” This just in!!!!! Odumbo camp now claiming Poor performance on “shrinkage factor “ From swimming in the ocean in Hawaii for a week!! Odimblubs wee wee is only this big ==) and made him lose all concentration. Film at 11:00 “I’m blaming my Penis” Note: I had a picture of obama holding his thumd and fore finger 1" apart but cant link it) “Faux News Alert”

This just in!!!!! Odumbo camp now claiming

Poor performance on “shrinkage factor “

From swimming in the ocean in Hawaii for a week!!

Odimblubs wee wee is only this big ==)
and made him lose all concentration.

Film at 11:00

“I’m blaming my Penis”

Note: I had a picture of obama holding his thumd and fore finger 1″ apart but cant link it)

]]> By: parrothead http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/08/saddleback-smackdown/#comment-9234 parrothead Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:34:20 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=648#comment-9234 Jersey, I wasn't talking about "the history of the labor movement throughout the world." Nor would I. I was only talking about the history of the labor movement in this country. You cannot compare the two. There are many more protections for the non-unionized workers in this country than in many others. Even you cannot deny the historical links between organized crime and the teamsters or deny the tactics used over the years by organized labor in this country. Just ask Jimmy Hoffa. Jersey, I wasn’t talking about “the history of the labor movement throughout the world.” Nor would I. I was only talking about the history of the labor movement in this country. You cannot compare the two. There are many more protections for the non-unionized workers in this country than in many others. Even you cannot deny the historical links between organized crime and the teamsters or deny the tactics used over the years by organized labor in this country. Just ask Jimmy Hoffa.

]]> By: ajmontana http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/08/saddleback-smackdown/#comment-9232 ajmontana Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:19:02 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=648#comment-9232 Eric, just e mailed you the latest "excuse" have fun with it if you want I sure did. lol.... a faux news alert on how ridicules the Odimbo camp is. welcome home aj montana. Eric, just e mailed you the latest “excuse” have fun with it if you want I sure did. lol…. a faux news alert on how ridicules the Odimbo camp is.

welcome home

aj montana.

]]> By: Micky 2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/08/saddleback-smackdown/#comment-9231 Micky 2 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:20:29 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=648#comment-9231 Yea Jersey, I stopped at the part where you said sleazey. It gets old Yea Jersey, I stopped at the part where you said sleazey.
It gets old

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/08/saddleback-smackdown/#comment-9230 Jersey McJones Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:52:31 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=648#comment-9230 Parrothead, in the history of the labor movement throughout the world, such incidents are barely footnotes. You've got it all backwards. If you think union intimidation "is just as prevanlent among union organizers as management," then I will no longer engage you in this topic. JMJ Parrothead, in the history of the labor movement throughout the world, such incidents are barely footnotes. You’ve got it all backwards. If you think union intimidation “is just as prevanlent among union organizers as management,” then I will no longer engage you in this topic.

JMJ

]]> By: parrothead http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/08/saddleback-smackdown/#comment-9229 parrothead Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:30:53 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=648#comment-9229 Jersey, I love your portrayal of this as being solely about union busting all the while ignoring the union history of using violence against employees who were not with them. One need only look at some of the recent incidents on picket lines in two California strikes (the longshoreman and the grocery workers) to know that intimidation is just as prevalent among union organizers as management. It got so bad the grocery stores took anything flammable off the shelves (including sterno) for fear of what might be done. Are there cases where management goes to excess and needs something to keep them in check, of course, although there are many state laws on the books to deal with that. But lets not forget there are lots of excesses on the union side which has caused many companies to fail and many employees to be abused by those who claim to be looking out for them. I have seen good and bad in unions but get real. It is not a game of good versus evil where the unions are all good and management is all bad. Jersey, I love your portrayal of this as being solely about union busting all the while ignoring the union history of using violence against employees who were not with them. One need only look at some of the recent incidents on picket lines in two California strikes (the longshoreman and the grocery workers) to know that intimidation is just as prevalent among union organizers as management. It got so bad the grocery stores took anything flammable off the shelves (including sterno) for fear of what might be done. Are there cases where management goes to excess and needs something to keep them in check, of course, although there are many state laws on the books to deal with that. But lets not forget there are lots of excesses on the union side which has caused many companies to fail and many employees to be abused by those who claim to be looking out for them. I have seen good and bad in unions but get real. It is not a game of good versus evil where the unions are all good and management is all bad.

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/08/saddleback-smackdown/#comment-9227 Jersey McJones Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:53:13 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=648#comment-9227 Well, Micky, you obviously chose to simply completely ignore everything I wrote about this proposal, so I just don't know what else to say to you about it. And no, Infidel, I'm absolutely sure the GOP wants this for their corporate buddies to make union-busting easier. I'm quite read on the subject - and I've seen this in action, for whatever the anecdotal worth. Religion is a powerful cultural force in America and the world. It is a motivator (or is it opiate?) of the masses. Given that the forum was religious in nature, I thought it apropos to bring it up. That, and for whatever reason, I've always been fascinated by religion. JMJ Well, Micky, you obviously chose to simply completely ignore everything I wrote about this proposal, so I just don’t know what else to say to you about it.

And no, Infidel, I’m absolutely sure the GOP wants this for their corporate buddies to make union-busting easier. I’m quite read on the subject - and I’ve seen this in action, for whatever the anecdotal worth.

Religion is a powerful cultural force in America and the world. It is a motivator (or is it opiate?) of the masses. Given that the forum was religious in nature, I thought it apropos to bring it up. That, and for whatever reason, I’ve always been fascinated by religion.

JMJ

]]> By: infidel308 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/08/saddleback-smackdown/#comment-9226 infidel308 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:59:20 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=648#comment-9226 JMJ- I am wondering if the GOP is bringing it up (secret ballots) as a backdoor to some sort of national system to ensure all votes are counted-one vote only-by living people-type of legislation. I think it was they (GOP) several years ago that brought up votes by dead people in Chicago or Seattle. And as a side note; you sure bring up religion a lot for someone who is atheist. Being a 'person of the book' I have no problems with atheism. In fact if you are right, it doesn't matter to either one of us, but if you are wrong it only matters to you. If it is the religious nutcases, then we both have problems with them. But just like I will never care what any candidate ever says about card check ballots vs. secret, why do you care so much about religion if you don't believe? Or is it jusk the kooks? JMJ-
I am wondering if the GOP is bringing it up (secret ballots) as a backdoor to some sort of national system to ensure all votes are counted-one vote only-by living people-type of legislation. I think it was they (GOP) several years ago that brought up votes by dead people in Chicago or Seattle.

And as a side note; you sure bring up religion a lot for someone who is atheist. Being a ‘person of the book’ I have no problems with atheism. In fact if you are right, it doesn’t matter to either one of us, but if you are wrong it only matters to you. If it is the religious nutcases, then we both have problems with them.

But just like I will never care what any candidate ever says about card check ballots vs. secret, why do you care so much about religion if you don’t believe? Or is it jusk the kooks?

]]> By: Micky 2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/08/saddleback-smackdown/#comment-9225 Micky 2 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:16:23 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=648#comment-9225 I dont see what business it is of anyones who I vote for. Whether its the class clown or a union vote. I could care less about unions also. As an Iron worker and working in many hotels I got to see just how they inflated the cost of labor and goods. At that time in y life standing on a moral or principle was not relevant. But on moral and ethical standards I see absolutley no reason in the world that my vote should not be secret. You would think a dem would be in favor of a majority vote that speaks for the people, regardless of being identified. Aint nothing sleazy about privacy at all. As a matter of fact its pretty damn sleazy to have it any other way I dont see what business it is of anyones who I vote for.
Whether its the class clown or a union vote.

I could care less about unions also.
As an Iron worker and working in many hotels I got to see just how they inflated the cost of labor and goods.
At that time in y life standing on a moral or principle was not relevant.

But on moral and ethical standards I see absolutley no reason in the world that my vote should not be secret.
You would think a dem would be in favor of a majority vote that speaks for the people, regardless of being identified.

Aint nothing sleazy about privacy at all. As a matter of fact its pretty damn sleazy to have it any other way

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/08/saddleback-smackdown/#comment-9224 Jersey McJones Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:09:19 +0000 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/?p=648#comment-9224 Oh, well, then you're question wasn't silly at all, Infidel. Sorry about that. What I meant about "that whole “secret ballot” issue is so sleazy, so phony" referred to the GOP effort to push the secret ballot-only legislation in the ostensible name of "labor rights." Since when does the GOP care about the rights of labor??? I mean, c'mon! Say whatever you want about the GOP over the years, but pro-labor was NEVER a part of their agenda! JMJ Oh, well, then you’re question wasn’t silly at all, Infidel. Sorry about that. What I meant about “that whole “secret ballot” issue is so sleazy, so phony” referred to the GOP effort to push the secret ballot-only legislation in the ostensible name of “labor rights.” Since when does the GOP care about the rights of labor??? I mean, c’mon! Say whatever you want about the GOP over the years, but pro-labor was NEVER a part of their agenda!

JMJ

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