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		<title>By: Jersey McJones</title>
		<link>http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/08/denver-democrat-debacle-day-4-the-children-go-to-bed/#comment-9479</link>
		<dc:creator>Jersey McJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parrot,

"Executives are easy to run against, because their record is clear"

If that was true then we'd have less executives as presidents.  Legislators are easier to run against because law-making is more complicated than law-meting.

And Jesus H Christ man don't ass-u-me what I know about management.  I've been around enough to my $#!t.  Heck man, I ran auto-industry production shifts in the mid-90's.  I know unions, management, national and international ways of seeing these things.  You should know by now that I'm not an idiot.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parrot,</p>
<p>&#8220;Executives are easy to run against, because their record is clear&#8221;</p>
<p>If that was true then we&#8217;d have less executives as presidents.  Legislators are easier to run against because law-making is more complicated than law-meting.</p>
<p>And Jesus H Christ man don&#8217;t ass-u-me what I know about management.  I&#8217;ve been around enough to my $#!t.  Heck man, I ran auto-industry production shifts in the mid-90&#8217;s.  I know unions, management, national and international ways of seeing these things.  You should know by now that I&#8217;m not an idiot.</p>
<p>JMJ</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey McJones</title>
		<link>http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/08/denver-democrat-debacle-day-4-the-children-go-to-bed/#comment-9478</link>
		<dc:creator>Jersey McJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eagle, do you think this is wise, even with the transitioners?  Are they, the Iraqi forces, ready for this - and ready for this in a way that's positive for us?  Remember, the first and last forces we left in Nam were MiTTs.  Does that inform you in a different way?  I heard about the Anbar pull-out.  I'm very worried about that.  It sounds historically familar - giving way to unfriendlies whilst they seem neutral. 

And by the way, man, thanks a million for being so civil with a guy like me.  Eric's "The Tygrrrr Express" is the best conservative blog EVER, and guys like you help to make it so.  Usually "civil" talk is just code speak for "politely pushing an agenda in a polite manner."  Here, and only here, I find conseratives who are willing push their agendas as they like - unexpurgated.  I like that.  That, and alliteration.  ;) 

JMJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eagle, do you think this is wise, even with the transitioners?  Are they, the Iraqi forces, ready for this - and ready for this in a way that&#8217;s positive for us?  Remember, the first and last forces we left in Nam were MiTTs.  Does that inform you in a different way?  I heard about the Anbar pull-out.  I&#8217;m very worried about that.  It sounds historically familar - giving way to unfriendlies whilst they seem neutral. </p>
<p>And by the way, man, thanks a million for being so civil with a guy like me.  Eric&#8217;s &#8220;The Tygrrrr Express&#8221; is the best conservative blog EVER, and guys like you help to make it so.  Usually &#8220;civil&#8221; talk is just code speak for &#8220;politely pushing an agenda in a polite manner.&#8221;  Here, and only here, I find conseratives who are willing push their agendas as they like - unexpurgated.  I like that.  That, and alliteration.  <img src='http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>JMJ</p>
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		<title>By: Eagle 6</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eagle 6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jersey - Thanks for asking.  GEN Petraeus is providing a fairly comprehensive strategy in the next week or so.  I just know that in my Forward Operating Base, we are losing about 230 of 260 personnel within the next month - leaving only two Military Transition Teams and a few support personnel.  Three or four Areas of Operation in my purview will experience similar cuts.  The Brigade that is here is being replaced by a Battalion - about a fourth the size.  This is not the case all across the board, but there are certainly many more MiTTs and support personnel and fewer ground forces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jersey - Thanks for asking.  GEN Petraeus is providing a fairly comprehensive strategy in the next week or so.  I just know that in my Forward Operating Base, we are losing about 230 of 260 personnel within the next month - leaving only two Military Transition Teams and a few support personnel.  Three or four Areas of Operation in my purview will experience similar cuts.  The Brigade that is here is being replaced by a Battalion - about a fourth the size.  This is not the case all across the board, but there are certainly many more MiTTs and support personnel and fewer ground forces.</p>
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		<title>By: parrothead</title>
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		<dc:creator>parrothead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Executives are easy to run against, because their record is clear ask Mitt Romney, Michael Dukakis, Howard Dean, Jerry, Brown, Pete Wilson, and so many others.  Legislators are easy because they really have very little accomplishments to point to only votes.  Which if you look at Obama's legislative record he has not voted on more issues than he has vote din on since he has spent much of time since he has been elected running for President and not in Washington.

I guess you proved my point with your blue blood comment.  You obviously don't understand what senior managers and executives do.  I notice you never refuted it.  I see you also get rather hot under the collar when somebody questions what you know and understand which is what you do to all the rest of us routinely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Executives are easy to run against, because their record is clear ask Mitt Romney, Michael Dukakis, Howard Dean, Jerry, Brown, Pete Wilson, and so many others.  Legislators are easy because they really have very little accomplishments to point to only votes.  Which if you look at Obama&#8217;s legislative record he has not voted on more issues than he has vote din on since he has spent much of time since he has been elected running for President and not in Washington.</p>
<p>I guess you proved my point with your blue blood comment.  You obviously don&#8217;t understand what senior managers and executives do.  I notice you never refuted it.  I see you also get rather hot under the collar when somebody questions what you know and understand which is what you do to all the rest of us routinely.</p>
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		<title>By: Micky 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micky 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 06:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Micky 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micky 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 06:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay Micky, look, you’re in the addict rehab biz, right? So you know setting time-tables or imminent expectations is unrealistic, right? It’s the ol’ “one day at a time” method, right? So okay, I can see your argument here. But here’s my problem: This is war. This is a foreign nation. These people are not choosing their situation. "
 
They did not choose The situation Saddam put them in.
They were not victims of addiction to anything but fear of a tyrant.
Your analogy is so far off and incomprehensible it almost sounds like some detox would be in order.
 
"A drug addict or an alky picks their problems, but a “collaterally damaged” human being in a war zone does not. "
 
No, none of us woke up one day and said to ourselves " I wanna be an addict"
 
Besides that, you have to get away from the "victimization of the Iraqis mentallity"
Its about the stabalization of the middle east.
Although there were human rights to be dealt with, or the lack of on part of the Iraqia Saddam had already invaded Iran and Kuwait. The third time would of been a charm.
Your saying that we probably wouldn’t even know “victory” in Iraq if it stared us in the face is an insult to all the hard work and loss of American life that had gone into the efforts of freeing a country from an oppresive demon.
The war has basically been won.
Sh*t can the BDS and your contempt for our soldiers who have done an incredible job.
You cannot controvert anything I said above but to come up with some backasswards analogy that hardly connected or made any relevance to the real issue. Which is that Iraq is on its way to being a more free and stable country than it has ever been. And we have managed to place ourselves in the most strategic place possible when it comes to keeping and eye on and having readiness to deal with radical islamic elements.
 

You say we dont know what we are fighting for ?
HAH!
Thats why most of the volunteers come back for 3rd and 4th tours.
And I stated how  any times now what the goals are and how close we are to achieving them.
With all due respect , this posting of yours is one of the most nonsensical and vacant of any legitimate point I have ever seen.
 
Its pretty bad for you guys when McCains VP pick is actually more qualified than the libs pick for the POTUS.
In the last 2 years she has been working in an executive capacity while Bambi has been running the trail and voting "present"
Ontop of the 10 plus years experience she has working in capacities that give her far more decision making skills than Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay Micky, look, you’re in the addict rehab biz, right? So you know setting time-tables or imminent expectations is unrealistic, right? It’s the ol’ “one day at a time” method, right? So okay, I can see your argument here. But here’s my problem: This is war. This is a foreign nation. These people are not choosing their situation. &#8221;</p>
<p>They did not choose The situation Saddam put them in.<br />
They were not victims of addiction to anything but fear of a tyrant.<br />
Your analogy is so far off and incomprehensible it almost sounds like some detox would be in order.</p>
<p>&#8220;A drug addict or an alky picks their problems, but a “collaterally damaged” human being in a war zone does not. &#8221;</p>
<p>No, none of us woke up one day and said to ourselves &#8221; I wanna be an addict&#8221;</p>
<p>Besides that, you have to get away from the &#8220;victimization of the Iraqis mentallity&#8221;<br />
Its about the stabalization of the middle east.<br />
Although there were human rights to be dealt with, or the lack of on part of the Iraqia Saddam had already invaded Iran and Kuwait. The third time would of been a charm.<br />
Your saying that we probably wouldn’t even know “victory” in Iraq if it stared us in the face is an insult to all the hard work and loss of American life that had gone into the efforts of freeing a country from an oppresive demon.<br />
The war has basically been won.<br />
Sh*t can the BDS and your contempt for our soldiers who have done an incredible job.<br />
You cannot controvert anything I said above but to come up with some backasswards analogy that hardly connected or made any relevance to the real issue. Which is that Iraq is on its way to being a more free and stable country than it has ever been. And we have managed to place ourselves in the most strategic place possible when it comes to keeping and eye on and having readiness to deal with radical islamic elements.</p>
<p>You say we dont know what we are fighting for ?<br />
HAH!<br />
Thats why most of the volunteers come back for 3rd and 4th tours.<br />
And I stated how  any times now what the goals are and how close we are to achieving them.<br />
With all due respect , this posting of yours is one of the most nonsensical and vacant of any legitimate point I have ever seen.</p>
<p>Its pretty bad for you guys when McCains VP pick is actually more qualified than the libs pick for the POTUS.<br />
In the last 2 years she has been working in an executive capacity while Bambi has been running the trail and voting &#8220;present&#8221;<br />
Ontop of the 10 plus years experience she has working in capacities that give her far more decision making skills than Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Micky 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micky 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 06:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Okay Micky, look, you’re in the addict rehab biz, right? So you know setting time-tables or imminent expectations is unrealistic, right? It’s the ol’ “one day at a time” method, right? So okay, I can see your argument here. But here’s my problem: This is war. This is a foreign nation. These people are not choosing their situation. "

They did not choose The situation Saddam put them in.
They were not victims of addiction to anything but fear of a tyrant.
Your analogy is so far off and incomprehensible it almost sounds like some detox would be in order.

"A drug addict or an alky picks their problems, but a “collaterally damaged” human being in a war zone does not. "

No, none of us woke up one day and said to ourselves " I wanna be an addict"

Besides that, you have to get away from the "victimization of the Iraqis mentallity"
Its about the stabalization of the middle east.
Although there were human rights to be dealt with, or the lack of on part of the Iraqia Saddam had already invaded Iran and Kuwait. The third time would of been a charm.
Your saying that we probably wouldn’t even know “victory” in Iraq if it stared us in the face is an insult to all the hard work and loss of American life that had gone into the efforts of freeing a country from an oppresive demon.
The war has basically been won.
Sh*t can the BDS and your contempt for our soldiers who have done an incredible job.
You cannot controvert anything I said above but to come up with some backasswards analogy that hardly connected or made any relevance to the real issue. Which is that Iraq is on its way to being a more free and stable country than it has ever been. And we have managed to place ourselves in the most strategic place possible when it comes to keeping and eye on and having readiness to deal with radical islamic elements.


You say we dont know what we are fighting for ?
HAH!
Thats why most of the volunteers come back for 3rd and 4th tours.
And I stated how  any times now what the goals are and how close we are to achieving them.
With all due respect , this posting of yours is one of the most nonsensical and vacant of any legitimate point I have ever seen.

Its pretty bad for you guys when McCains VP pick is actually more qualified than the libs pick for the POTUS.
In the last 2 years she has been working in an executive capacity while Bambi has been running the trail and voting "present"
Ontop of the 10 plus years experience she has working in capacities that give her far more decision making skills than Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Okay Micky, look, you’re in the addict rehab biz, right? So you know setting time-tables or imminent expectations is unrealistic, right? It’s the ol’ “one day at a time” method, right? So okay, I can see your argument here. But here’s my problem: This is war. This is a foreign nation. These people are not choosing their situation. &#8221;</p>
<p>They did not choose The situation Saddam put them in.<br />
They were not victims of addiction to anything but fear of a tyrant.<br />
Your analogy is so far off and incomprehensible it almost sounds like some detox would be in order.</p>
<p>&#8220;A drug addict or an alky picks their problems, but a “collaterally damaged” human being in a war zone does not. &#8221;</p>
<p>No, none of us woke up one day and said to ourselves &#8221; I wanna be an addict&#8221;</p>
<p>Besides that, you have to get away from the &#8220;victimization of the Iraqis mentallity&#8221;<br />
Its about the stabalization of the middle east.<br />
Although there were human rights to be dealt with, or the lack of on part of the Iraqia Saddam had already invaded Iran and Kuwait. The third time would of been a charm.<br />
Your saying that we probably wouldn’t even know “victory” in Iraq if it stared us in the face is an insult to all the hard work and loss of American life that had gone into the efforts of freeing a country from an oppresive demon.<br />
The war has basically been won.<br />
Sh*t can the BDS and your contempt for our soldiers who have done an incredible job.<br />
You cannot controvert anything I said above but to come up with some backasswards analogy that hardly connected or made any relevance to the real issue. Which is that Iraq is on its way to being a more free and stable country than it has ever been. And we have managed to place ourselves in the most strategic place possible when it comes to keeping and eye on and having readiness to deal with radical islamic elements.</p>
<p>You say we dont know what we are fighting for ?<br />
HAH!<br />
Thats why most of the volunteers come back for 3rd and 4th tours.<br />
And I stated how  any times now what the goals are and how close we are to achieving them.<br />
With all due respect , this posting of yours is one of the most nonsensical and vacant of any legitimate point I have ever seen.</p>
<p>Its pretty bad for you guys when McCains VP pick is actually more qualified than the libs pick for the POTUS.<br />
In the last 2 years she has been working in an executive capacity while Bambi has been running the trail and voting &#8220;present&#8221;<br />
Ontop of the 10 plus years experience she has working in capacities that give her far more decision making skills than Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey McJones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jersey McJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and Parrot, you'd have to put my prior comment into a context between Micky and I, otherwise of course it would seem "rambling" to you.  Oh, and so would the war in Iraq and probably most other issues you feel strongly about.  That's the funny thing about you GWB supporters (kinda' like Jefferson Davis supporters) - you don't even know what you're fighting for, and if you did, you wouldn't.  ;)

JMJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Parrot, you&#8217;d have to put my prior comment into a context between Micky and I, otherwise of course it would seem &#8220;rambling&#8221; to you.  Oh, and so would the war in Iraq and probably most other issues you feel strongly about.  That&#8217;s the funny thing about you GWB supporters (kinda&#8217; like Jefferson Davis supporters) - you don&#8217;t even know what you&#8217;re fighting for, and if you did, you wouldn&#8217;t.  <img src='http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>JMJ</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey McJones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jersey McJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parrot, if there's one thing I've learned from the private sector in America (and qausi-private sectors in Europre and Asia), "executive experience" is about as valuable as "blue blood" - usually it means you're functionally retarded at best.  ;)

The only reason legislators don't get elected to executive office is because legislative records are easier to run against than executive records - and if you don't already know that then don't even bother with me, because I'll "only assume" you don't know you legislature from your executive from your @$$.

JMJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parrot, if there&#8217;s one thing I&#8217;ve learned from the private sector in America (and qausi-private sectors in Europre and Asia), &#8220;executive experience&#8221; is about as valuable as &#8220;blue blood&#8221; - usually it means you&#8217;re functionally retarded at best.  <img src='http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The only reason legislators don&#8217;t get elected to executive office is because legislative records are easier to run against than executive records - and if you don&#8217;t already know that then don&#8217;t even bother with me, because I&#8217;ll &#8220;only assume&#8221; you don&#8217;t know you legislature from your executive from your @$$.</p>
<p>JMJ</p>
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		<title>By: parrothead</title>
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		<dc:creator>parrothead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jersey,

Your response was so rambling and made such little sense I would not know how to respond.  I guess you were trying to use a clever analogy but it cmae out tortured.

As far as Palin goes, while she does have relatively little experience she has more EXECUTIVE experience (10 years) than Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton COMBINED (0 years).  It is very different when you are in the decision making seat and have to have sole responsibility then when you are one of a body who votes to make decisions.   If you are absent from a legislative body for a decision your vote is ignored and business moves on.  It isn't the same when you are the decision maker.  I can only assume that you have never held a position of authority since you cannot understand this difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jersey,</p>
<p>Your response was so rambling and made such little sense I would not know how to respond.  I guess you were trying to use a clever analogy but it cmae out tortured.</p>
<p>As far as Palin goes, while she does have relatively little experience she has more EXECUTIVE experience (10 years) than Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton COMBINED (0 years).  It is very different when you are in the decision making seat and have to have sole responsibility then when you are one of a body who votes to make decisions.   If you are absent from a legislative body for a decision your vote is ignored and business moves on.  It isn&#8217;t the same when you are the decision maker.  I can only assume that you have never held a position of authority since you cannot understand this difference.</p>
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