Yea well, you’ve done it before, glad you saw the light , somewhat.
Its a money war. Its not directed at any class or race intentionally
It just so happens that people who are addicted usually don’t have two nickels to rub together for obvious reasons. And addiction knows no race or class. White/black it doesn’t matter. Most inmates are there as a result of addiction or poor choices made a result of being under the influence or the parallel destruction and they caught up in a chaotic system.
For every dealer there are 8 inmates in for possession only. 80% of inmates are in for possession.

JMJ:
“The war on terror has been the most counter-productive endeavor in American history ”
That’s why we haven’t had an attack on American soil since 911 ?

JMJ:
“We’re going to seriously regret this mistake - we already are.”

Where have you been ?
We have already been regretting not doing more sooner .
As a matter of fact everything that was done in previous administrations was insufficient and let the threat grow to a head on 911.
I will always hold Clinton accountable for dereliction of duty.
Its historical fact that he had ample opportunity to do more than he did, but did very little.
Bush senior went after a destabilizing force in the middle east by pushing Saddam out of Kuwait and back into Iraq.
Clinton only took pot shots at another destabilizing force for expediency purposes only with no real intent of dealing with the problem.
The civil war was counter productive ? I guess you’re one of the any moonbats that think that was an unnecessary war also ? Ask a black man.

As far as Saddam goes.
Any leader of state that thinks he can just march into another country and take it over has already made himself out to be a rip roaring lunatic and needs to be ousted.
We should of done it then. But hey , we had to show diplomacy , trust and benefit of the doubt , right ? And so we did by implementing sanctions and rules stemming from a surrender agreement that said if you screw up we will come a knockin.
Well, Saddam screwed up and we kept our promise. and at the same time he proved along with the rest of the middle east that all the peace treaties and agreements made in the middle east have never amounted to squat.
Tell me Jersey , where were all the kumbaya human rights activists when Saddam was feeding families to lions , starving his people and gassing thousands of Kurds and committing horrible human rights violations ?
Why was there no outcry from the left during these atrocities ? Where was Clinton ?
Where were you ?
So please, give it up already.
As often as you have tried to make your asinine case I have always shot it down with blatant undeniable truth and fact to which you have only tried to controvert with emotional idealism and opinions.
The war was legally deemed necessary, with or without WMD’s.
Much of the intelligence supporting the invasion came from foreign intelligence agencies, as many as 21 different countries contributed to this gathering of intelligence. Much of which could never have been influenced by any American bias.
Those 21 countries also saw the threat Saddam was to middle east stability and join us as part of the coalition.
Yea, remember that line of crap that was floating around for a while ? The one all you moonbats were trying to pass off as truth?
“Bush thinks we can just go it alone”

The thinking on the left is flawed.
This is why you lose elections.

JMJ

What the he** are you talking about ?
No, why it would mean that we have to get into ground battles with unrelated nations ?
If they are sponsoring, supporting and/or training and giving aid to terrorists well ,uh ,
Y E A ! Then they would be related.

JMJ;
“The War on Terror is the single stupidest thing I’ve seen my nation do in my entire lifetime.”

With all due respect, I know I can be snippy.
But that statement is the single stupidest thing I have heard anyone say.
And please, I can see it coming. Dont equate the war on terror to the war on drugs.
There is no parallel. The two are driven by totally different agendas.

Of course not. Don’t be silly. But that doesn’t mean we have to get into all-out ground wars with nations unrelated to the problem. That’s just nuts.

The War on Terror is the single stupidest thing I’ve seen my nation do in my entire lifetime.

JMJ

I’m an American, and as far as I can tell, we can prosecute the war on terror for as long as we need to. There’s a difference between public information and media propoganda… There’s also a difference between public information (a lot of which stems from the aforementioned propoganda) and the truth. The truth is, we are winning in Iraq, and the media is so devastated by this good news story they refuse to acknowledge it. In May, casualties were the lowest since the conflict began. Who reported that? I learned it from one of the brain-washing briefings I get, and some of our more naive populace learned it from Fox News…so it must be irrelevant. This is also the first time the Iraqi government has had operational control over Baghdad, Sadr City, Mosul, and Basra…and Maliki, his army, Security Forces, and Sons of Iraq, spearheaded the attacks during the clear phase and are in the lead for the hold/build phases, supported by the Iraqi National Police and the US, Australian, and British Armies…. but we must be losing because a US sniper put a few holes in the Koran and a 1,000 or so Iraqis refused to participate in one of the raids… perspective…let’s BE Americans and stand behind our country for a change.

Tell me , what do you think would happen if we paid any less attention to the threat than we do now ?
( I’m gonna be sorry I asked that )

Analysis ?
Without going into the charts that show the progressive nature of the threat I’ll attempt to explain it to you in a simple way.

EACH ATTACK HAS BEEN BIGGER THAN THE LAST ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cost ?
Hmmm.
I think losing our entire finacial structure and having the whole country plummet into chaos and starvation due to pipelines, shipping lanes, refineries and drilling sites all being blown to hell would justify the cost.

JMJ

You mean to tell me that all these guys volunteered for a mission that was secret until graduating boot camp?.

JMJ;”Fighting terrorism is not worth thousands of lives and trillions of dollars. I hope Americans remember that come November.”

I hope they remember the thousands that have died as a result of terrorism.
I also hope they remember the thousands that died because we took our eyes off of terrorism.
I hope they remember the thousands that died because we thought we had terrorism at a safe distance.
I hope they remember that since 911 we have not been attacked once.
I hope they remember that we can never, ever let anything like 911 happen again.
I hope they remember that the benefits of preventing Radical Islam from achieving its goal far outweighs the cost.

And to our most gracious host, remember, that’s true for Israel too, and they manage it pretty well - a lot better than us.

JMJ

I agree that would be the answer. He can’t, after all, admit to what we’re facing. Thankfully, you picked that up. I read Eric’s post, and I noted the Admiral was not fond of the press leaking strategic information. On the other hand we all know, just being Americans, that we can’t keep this up forever - not without a draft, and of course our enemies know that too. It’s public information. The whole world knows it.

What we’re doing now is abusing our volunteers, and that’s irresponsible at best, despicable at worst. In all our history, when we were faced with a mortally threatening enemy, we as a nation stood up together and with a draft filled our ranks and won the fight.

What’s the problem this time? I thought you guys said we we’re facing some existential threat. Why would not the draft be apropos? I know why. You know why. It’s because the threat is not worth the cost. Period.

Fighting terrorism is not worth thousands of lives and trillions of dollars. I hope Americans remember that come November.

JMJ