Comments on: Meeting David Keene http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/06/meeting-david-keene/ Drinking the love from her Holy Grail Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:48:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Ivo Vegter http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/06/meeting-david-keene/#comment-7831 Ivo Vegter Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:04:14 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=544#comment-7831 I don't share this guy's optimism. Americans may well need a reminder of how real Democrats govern. Clinton was positively right-wing, compared to the current lot. Expect a 1960s reprise on foreign policy, and a 1970s rerun on economics. Wrapped in a shiny new charisma package. One hopes it will smack the GOP hard enough to realise that it's not only young people who are libertarian. People don't vote conservative because they want moral relativism and a big, wasteful, overweening government. I don’t share this guy’s optimism. Americans may well need a reminder of how real Democrats govern. Clinton was positively right-wing, compared to the current lot. Expect a 1960s reprise on foreign policy, and a 1970s rerun on economics. Wrapped in a shiny new charisma package. One hopes it will smack the GOP hard enough to realise that it’s not only young people who are libertarian. People don’t vote conservative because they want moral relativism and a big, wasteful, overweening government.

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/06/meeting-david-keene/#comment-7798 Jersey McJones Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:01:10 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=544#comment-7798 The Panama Canal deal is not a problem. It really never was. I spent a decade in the container line industry. Please, God, believe me, the Panama Canal deal never was a problem. Even the invasion was almost completely unnecessary. And since when is keeping your word a bad thing? I still can't fathom exactly what Carter did wrong with Iran back then. What was he supposed to do? Invade Iran? What happened back then was blowback from the 1953 CIA coup - over oil, as usual. That was what started it all. Had we not done that, in all likelyhood, the hostage situation and overthrow of the Shah would certainly never have taken place. And since when is national self-determination a bad thing? I call Double Hypocrisy! And if you think you can get away with comparing modern American libertarians to Jefferson and Franklin (well, maybe Franklin, but he really doesn't count) then you've got another thing coming from anyone any knowledge of American history. Silliness. Adolesecnt silliness. JMJ The Panama Canal deal is not a problem. It really never was. I spent a decade in the container line industry. Please, God, believe me, the Panama Canal deal never was a problem. Even the invasion was almost completely unnecessary. And since when is keeping your word a bad thing?

I still can’t fathom exactly what Carter did wrong with Iran back then. What was he supposed to do? Invade Iran? What happened back then was blowback from the 1953 CIA coup - over oil, as usual. That was what started it all. Had we not done that, in all likelyhood, the hostage situation and overthrow of the Shah would certainly never have taken place. And since when is national self-determination a bad thing?

I call Double Hypocrisy!

And if you think you can get away with comparing modern American libertarians to Jefferson and Franklin (well, maybe Franklin, but he really doesn’t count) then you’ve got another thing coming from anyone any knowledge of American history. Silliness. Adolesecnt silliness.

JMJ

]]> By: parrothead http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/06/meeting-david-keene/#comment-7797 parrothead Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:12:30 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=544#comment-7797 Carter pulled the rug out form under the Shah allowing Khomeini to rise to power. He also surrendered the Panama Canal. Adoescents like Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, etc Carter pulled the rug out form under the Shah allowing Khomeini to rise to power. He also surrendered the Panama Canal.

Adoescents like Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, etc

]]> By: Micky 2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/06/meeting-david-keene/#comment-7796 Micky 2 Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:25:36 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=544#comment-7796 Carter surrenderd whatever dignity he had left in this country Carter surrenderd whatever dignity he had left in this country

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/06/meeting-david-keene/#comment-7793 Jersey McJones Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:42:11 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=544#comment-7793 "Young people are economically libertarian." LOL! He said that right! Libertarianism: The political phiosophy of adolescents. "Democrats argue that their is one bad world actor, and that is the United States." Nonsense. The rightwing laps this stuff up. Too bad it's a bold faced lie. "...Jimmy Carter... surrendered to Iran" Ludicrous. Surrendered what? What? Did we own Iran? Insanity. And that gun nut stuff is just loony. Mr Keene seems to have his rightwing rhetoric down. I'll give him that. I expect to hear plenty more of this stuff over the next few months. JMJ “Young people are economically libertarian.”

LOL! He said that right! Libertarianism: The political phiosophy of adolescents.

“Democrats argue that their is one bad world actor, and that is the United States.”

Nonsense. The rightwing laps this stuff up. Too bad it’s a bold faced lie.

“…Jimmy Carter… surrendered to Iran”

Ludicrous. Surrendered what? What? Did we own Iran? Insanity.

And that gun nut stuff is just loony.

Mr Keene seems to have his rightwing rhetoric down. I’ll give him that. I expect to hear plenty more of this stuff over the next few months.

JMJ

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