Comments on: Israel at 60 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/israel-at-60/ Drinking the love from her Holy Grail Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:46:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: yonason http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/israel-at-60/#comment-6862 yonason Sun, 18 May 2008 17:37:28 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=518#comment-6862 Thanks for the link list, eric. I didn't have some of them. Thanks for the link list, eric. I didn’t have some of them.

]]> By: Delta http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/israel-at-60/#comment-6874 Delta Wed, 14 May 2008 23:31:12 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=518#comment-6874 Yaaaay G-d! He caused the impossible to happen! For "a nation to be built in a day"!!! Israel is not only a sign of hope for the Jews: it is a sign of G-d's continual watchfulness over mankind, and His Chosen! I praise Him for His faithfulness! Yaaaay G-d! He caused the impossible to happen! For “a nation to be built in a day”!!!

Israel is not only a sign of hope for the Jews: it is a sign of G-d’s continual watchfulness over mankind, and His Chosen!

I praise Him for His faithfulness!

]]> By: Marni http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/israel-at-60/#comment-6873 Marni Wed, 14 May 2008 22:55:31 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=518#comment-6873 Yom Kuledet Sameach (I hope that's a good transliteration) The reasons the Palestinians don't like Israel is because of the British who didn't let anymore Jewish refugees into there country during WWII. Palestine was under British rule, and so the British sent them there. But we are celebrating a place that Jews can call their own, and where those in trouble or danger can go to as their homeland. Every other religion has a place in the world to call their own. But the conflict is not over religion. That's what we must remember. Happy 60th! Yom Kuledet Sameach (I hope that’s a good transliteration)

The reasons the Palestinians don’t like Israel is because of the British who didn’t let anymore Jewish refugees into there country during WWII. Palestine was under British rule, and so the British sent them there. But we are celebrating a place that Jews can call their own, and where those in trouble or danger can go to as their homeland. Every other religion has a place in the world to call their own. But the conflict is not over religion. That’s what we must remember. Happy 60th!

]]> By: micky2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/israel-at-60/#comment-6872 micky2 Wed, 14 May 2008 22:54:16 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=518#comment-6872 You know what ? I think everything went right over your head. Todays post is a celebration of today. And where the Jews are at " TODAY" has nothing to do with luck. Look at the posts above and maybe you'll get a clue. People are congratulating Eric and wishing him a happy celebration of an event that is definatley attributed to a lot of hard work. But Nooooooooooooooooooo. You gotta come in here with a bunch of nay saying that is basically the equivalent of pissing on someones birthday cake. Drop the history lesson with all your bias attachments for one day. You know what ?
I think everything went right over your head.
Todays post is a celebration of today.
And where the Jews are at ” TODAY” has nothing to do with luck.

Look at the posts above and maybe you’ll get a clue.
People are congratulating Eric and wishing him a happy celebration of an event that is definatley attributed to a lot of hard work.
But Nooooooooooooooooooo.
You gotta come in here with a bunch of nay saying that is basically the equivalent of pissing on someones birthday cake.
Drop the history lesson with all your bias attachments for one day.

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/israel-at-60/#comment-6871 Jersey McJones Wed, 14 May 2008 22:33:12 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=518#comment-6871 I'd call being Jewish in 1930's Germany pretty bad luck, Micky. That's why Israel exists today. It's right, it's their's, they deserve it. They just have yet, after 60 long years, to figure out a tenable way to make it safe. And I hope the Palestinians finally grow up and put together a truly honorable and sympathetic national movement. What they have now, as I read in The Nation this week, is "fighting like two cocks on a garbage heap." And that's between themselves! I read a post here earlier about "democracy." Well, pal, look it what it gave Palestine. There's a time and a place for everything, including democracy. JMJ I’d call being Jewish in 1930’s Germany pretty bad luck, Micky.

That’s why Israel exists today. It’s right, it’s their’s, they deserve it. They just have yet, after 60 long years, to figure out a tenable way to make it safe. And I hope the Palestinians finally grow up and put together a truly honorable and sympathetic national movement. What they have now, as I read in The Nation this week, is “fighting like two cocks on a garbage heap.” And that’s between themselves! I read a post here earlier about “democracy.” Well, pal, look it what it gave Palestine. There’s a time and a place for everything, including democracy.

JMJ

]]> By: micky2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/israel-at-60/#comment-6870 micky2 Wed, 14 May 2008 21:54:14 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=518#comment-6870 JMJ: "Micky, Israel wouldn’t even exist today were it not for about the worst luck any people on the face of the Earth have ever faced." What ? If i'm correct the Jews have been fighting their hides off on order to maintain their small place on earth. Luck ? (have another one) JMJ:
“Micky, Israel wouldn’t even exist today were it not for about the worst luck any people on the face of the Earth have ever faced.”

What ?
If i’m correct the Jews have been fighting their hides off on order to maintain their small place on earth.
Luck ?
(have another one)

]]> By: Delta http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/israel-at-60/#comment-6869 Delta Wed, 14 May 2008 21:44:49 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=518#comment-6869 Eric: May the joy you feel continue on and on! I, too, am happy to see Israel's 60th Anniversary in the present day. (Although Israel is thousands of years old in reality - smile) How I wish I were going to Jerusalem! There is no place else on earth like Israel. There is no place in Israel like Jerusalem! When I went to Israel eight years ago, during the Intifada, I did not get to go to Hebron, Masada, or the Galilee and Gamla. Take in everything, and if possible, visit the tombs of the prophets and of Kalev and Joshua. Pinch yourself everyonce in awhile to remind yourself it's not a dream. (wistful sigh! smile) As you are aware, for decades I've been one who supports and prays for Israel. It was a U.S. President who changed the expected outlook for Israel as a country (state) recognized by the U.N. That president was Harry S Truman. The prior president, Roosevelt, had promised Prince Faisal and other Arab nations he would not support the establishment of Israel. President Truman, however, went against members of his own cabinet, some of which resigned as a result. So, here's a kudo's to an American President who counted the cost, and did what was right anyway. Thanks, Harry! Thanks for doing that which pleased the Lord. Eric:

May the joy you feel continue on and on! I, too, am happy to see Israel’s 60th Anniversary in the present day. (Although Israel is thousands of years old in reality - smile)

How I wish I were going to Jerusalem! There is no place else on earth like Israel. There is no place in Israel like Jerusalem! When I went to Israel eight years ago, during the Intifada, I did not get to go to Hebron, Masada, or the Galilee and Gamla. Take in everything, and if possible, visit the tombs of the prophets and of Kalev and Joshua. Pinch yourself everyonce in awhile to remind yourself it’s not a dream. (wistful sigh! smile)

As you are aware, for decades I’ve been one who supports and prays for Israel.

It was a U.S. President who changed the expected outlook for Israel as a country (state) recognized by the U.N. That president was Harry S Truman. The prior president, Roosevelt, had promised Prince Faisal and other Arab nations he would not support the establishment of Israel. President Truman, however, went against members of his own cabinet, some of which resigned as a result.

So, here’s a kudo’s to an American President who counted the cost, and did what was right anyway. Thanks, Harry! Thanks for doing that which pleased the Lord.

]]> By: Paul Daniggelis http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/israel-at-60/#comment-6868 Paul Daniggelis Wed, 14 May 2008 19:12:49 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=518#comment-6868 The U.S. should stop trying to be "even-handed" in the Middle East. They should support Israel against their neighbors in no uncertain terms. Democracy is the "only" solution to world chaos. The legal definition of "sovereignty" needs to be redefined to exclude dictatorships. Unfortunately, American Jews do not support those conservative values that keep Israel free and independent. The United Nations is part of the problem; not the solution. There is also a "birth rate" problem among Jews. Their numbers are declining for any number of reasons. This trend must be reversed. The U.S. should stop trying to be “even-handed” in the Middle East. They should support Israel against their neighbors in no uncertain terms. Democracy is the “only” solution to world chaos. The legal definition of “sovereignty” needs to be redefined to exclude dictatorships. Unfortunately, American Jews do not support those conservative values that keep Israel free and independent. The United Nations is part of the problem; not the solution. There is also a “birth rate” problem among Jews. Their numbers are declining for any number of reasons. This trend must be reversed.

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/israel-at-60/#comment-6867 Jersey McJones Wed, 14 May 2008 19:05:14 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=518#comment-6867 Before the Palestinian Question, there was the Jewish Question. After WWII, Jewish refugees were being turned away from America and the British Commonwealth nations. But these states weren't keen on the Zionist idea either, especially the Brits. It took the brilliant diplomatic efforts of people like Abba Eban to assuage their concerns and even allow the Israeli immigration to begin. Remember, oil was now king, and the relations bewteen the Arab states and the West was more important than ever before. These states did not want a new Israel either. So the tensions and conflicts of interest were there from the start. Just as we aided Israeli and armed them, we were aiding and arming their sworn enemies, and most always have. And when the Palestinian refugees attempted to take over Jordan, which may well have brought peace to the region, we in the West backed the Jordanian monarchy. We helped to create the Pasetinian football game, kicking them around from place to place and instilling a permanent culture of violence and despair. The Europeans have been all over the field in this game. It's not as simple as 'who helps who now.' Take the recent phenomena of Fundamentalist American Christians suddenly falling in love with Israel and pushing for extremist expansion. Is this really for the interest of the Jews, or is this just the self-interest of religious fanatics who really couldn't care less about the Jewish people? Again, it's not as simple as your questions suggest. JMJ Before the Palestinian Question, there was the Jewish Question. After WWII, Jewish refugees were being turned away from America and the British Commonwealth nations. But these states weren’t keen on the Zionist idea either, especially the Brits. It took the brilliant diplomatic efforts of people like Abba Eban to assuage their concerns and even allow the Israeli immigration to begin. Remember, oil was now king, and the relations bewteen the Arab states and the West was more important than ever before. These states did not want a new Israel either. So the tensions and conflicts of interest were there from the start. Just as we aided Israeli and armed them, we were aiding and arming their sworn enemies, and most always have. And when the Palestinian refugees attempted to take over Jordan, which may well have brought peace to the region, we in the West backed the Jordanian monarchy. We helped to create the Pasetinian football game, kicking them around from place to place and instilling a permanent culture of violence and despair. The Europeans have been all over the field in this game. It’s not as simple as ‘who helps who now.’ Take the recent phenomena of Fundamentalist American Christians suddenly falling in love with Israel and pushing for extremist expansion. Is this really for the interest of the Jews, or is this just the self-interest of religious fanatics who really couldn’t care less about the Jewish people? Again, it’s not as simple as your questions suggest.

JMJ

]]> By: lowdogg http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/israel-at-60/#comment-6866 lowdogg Wed, 14 May 2008 18:54:17 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=518#comment-6866 And what does that have to do with today? What does it have to do with that fact that Christian Europeans and North Americans have helped protect the Jewish state for the last 60 years? And what does that have to do with today? What does it have to do with that fact that Christian Europeans and North Americans have helped protect the Jewish state for the last 60 years?

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