Comments on: Hillary Clinton vs Bill O’Reilly–The conclusion http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/hillary-clinton-vs-bill-oreilly-the-conclusion/ Drinking the love from her Holy Grail Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:28:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: parrothead http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/hillary-clinton-vs-bill-oreilly-the-conclusion/#comment-6612 parrothead Sat, 03 May 2008 17:19:11 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=497#comment-6612 Back to the previous thread. Since when is somebody who favors a womens right to an abortion, opposes the death penalty, favors gun control, and supports aggressive measure in combating global warming a right wing extremist? These are positions Bill O'Reilly holds. The Clintons and their supporters were very successful at labeling anybody who felt that perjury in a sexual harassment trial on a line questioning the feminist movement actively supported making admissible as right wing zealots. Bill O'Reilly may be a self-important, self-righteous,arrogant, pompous jerk (or at least that is his public persona) but he is far from a right wing extremist. Isn't CBS news people who used fabricated evidence against George Bush just before the election against Kerry, and many times in 60 minutes broadcasts which they had to recant. Far from the sterling journalistic organization you describe them as. I won't even go in to the problems at the NY times or Washington Post. All news agencies have their biases and integrity lapses and the key is to read as many as possible to filter the truth for yourself. Fox is no further right than CBS is left. Back to the previous thread. Since when is somebody who favors a womens right to an abortion, opposes the death penalty, favors gun control, and supports aggressive measure in combating global warming a right wing extremist? These are positions Bill O’Reilly holds. The Clintons and their supporters were very successful at labeling anybody who felt that perjury in a sexual harassment trial on a line questioning the feminist movement actively supported making admissible as right wing zealots.

Bill O’Reilly may be a self-important, self-righteous,arrogant, pompous jerk (or at least that is his public persona) but he is far from a right wing extremist.

Isn’t CBS news people who used fabricated evidence against George Bush just before the election against Kerry, and many times in 60 minutes broadcasts which they had to recant. Far from the sterling journalistic organization you describe them as. I won’t even go in to the problems at the NY times or Washington Post. All news agencies have their biases and integrity lapses and the key is to read as many as possible to filter the truth for yourself. Fox is no further right than CBS is left.

]]> By: parrothead http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/hillary-clinton-vs-bill-oreilly-the-conclusion/#comment-6611 parrothead Sat, 03 May 2008 16:07:09 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=497#comment-6611 Living in California, I can tell you the environmentalists have had major roles in preventing off shore drilling and the building of refineries in my state. The regulations this states legislature have placed on these activities (when they have not strictly prohibited it in some locations), is what has made it NOT PROFITABLE for the "small cartels" to build this infrastructure. California's legislature is heavily influenced by the environmental movement. On a side note it is not the Alaskans who oppose drilling in ANWR a state which overwhelmingly supports it, but it is prohibited by the federal government. Living in California, I can tell you the environmentalists have had major roles in preventing off shore drilling and the building of refineries in my state. The regulations this states legislature have placed on these activities (when they have not strictly prohibited it in some locations), is what has made it NOT PROFITABLE for the “small cartels” to build this infrastructure. California’s legislature is heavily influenced by the environmental movement.

On a side note it is not the Alaskans who oppose drilling in ANWR a state which overwhelmingly supports it, but it is prohibited by the federal government.

]]> By: micky2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/hillary-clinton-vs-bill-oreilly-the-conclusion/#comment-6608 micky2 Sat, 03 May 2008 04:30:43 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=497#comment-6608 This is Ralph Naders organization. Check it out. http://www.citizen.org/CMEP/ "Carbon-Free and Nuclear-Free: A Roadmap for U.S. Energy Policy, by Dr. Arjun Makhijani of the Institute for Energy and Environmental Research, serves as a viable proposal to move our energy sector away from the polluting and hazardous energy sources of the past by demonstrating the feasibility of eliminating our dependency on finite resources." Of course I realize you side with the greeniacs in foil caps so it kind a puts you in an akward position because as environmentalist yourself you are arguing against them. Hmm. This is Ralph Naders organization.
Check it out.
http://www.citizen.org/CMEP/

“Carbon-Free and Nuclear-Free: A Roadmap for U.S. Energy Policy, by Dr. Arjun Makhijani of the Institute for Energy and Environmental Research, serves as a viable proposal to move our energy sector away from the polluting and hazardous energy sources of the past by demonstrating the feasibility of eliminating our dependency on finite resources.”

Of course I realize you side with the greeniacs in foil caps so it kind a puts you in an akward position because as environmentalist yourself you are arguing against them.
Hmm.

]]> By: micky2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/hillary-clinton-vs-bill-oreilly-the-conclusion/#comment-6607 micky2 Sat, 03 May 2008 04:25:42 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=497#comment-6607 http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/11/nuclear.commentary/index.html But three decades later, we're facing the same nuclear issues. And to counter this threat, we are organizing once again. One of America's most critical financial and ecological decisions is now before Congress. The atomic energy industry wants at least $50 billion in loan guarantees for a "new generation" of reactors that have already begun to fail, and that Wall Street won't finance. That took about 3 minutes and I can pull a slew of groups that feel the same way. And then theres the oil companies too http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/11/nuclear.commentary/index.html
But three decades later, we’re facing the same nuclear issues. And to counter this threat, we are organizing once again.

One of America’s most critical financial and ecological decisions is now before Congress. The atomic energy industry wants at least $50 billion in loan guarantees for a “new generation” of reactors that have already begun to fail, and that Wall Street won’t finance.

That took about 3 minutes and I can pull a slew of groups that feel the same way.
And then theres the oil companies too

]]> By: micky2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/hillary-clinton-vs-bill-oreilly-the-conclusion/#comment-6606 micky2 Sat, 03 May 2008 04:24:14 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=497#comment-6606 http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb5060/is_200408/ai_n18434200 Bruce Geiselman Two environmental groups have notified the U.S. Energy Department of their intention to file a lawsuit against the agency in connection with plans to clean up contamination at the Santa Susana Field Laboratory in Simi Valley, Calif. The Natural Resources Defense Council and the Committee to Bridge the Gap will file the lawsuit unless Energy officials address their objections, according to a July 19 letter to Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb5060/is_200408/ai_n18434200
Bruce Geiselman Two environmental groups have notified the U.S. Energy Department of their intention to file a lawsuit against the agency in connection with plans to clean up contamination at the Santa Susana Field Laboratory in Simi Valley, Calif. The Natural Resources Defense Council and the Committee to Bridge the Gap will file the lawsuit unless Energy officials address their objections, according to a July 19 letter to Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham.

]]> By: micky2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/hillary-clinton-vs-bill-oreilly-the-conclusion/#comment-6605 micky2 Sat, 03 May 2008 04:23:04 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=497#comment-6605 Your critsism of my state really says alot about you. Ignorance would be the word. Iget all the same info any one else does. And I was living in florida before you were even born. I have also managed to travel most of this country for 30 years and three other countries.. My delusions if you will call them that are by no means to be compared to your insane belief that the republican party is the host of the end times. Heres my delusions in real form. I guess that would make them "non delusional" This is just a short list http://www.cane.org.za/2007/09/10/nuclear-energy-related/keep-nuke-waste-away/ Your critsism of my state really says alot about you. Ignorance would be the word.
Iget all the same info any one else does.
And I was living in florida before you were even born. I have also managed to travel most of this country for 30 years and three other countries..
My delusions if you will call them that are by no means to be compared to your insane belief that the republican party is the host of the end times.
Heres my delusions in real form. I guess that would make them “non delusional”

This is just a short list

http://www.cane.org.za/2007/09/10/nuclear-energy-related/keep-nuke-waste-away/

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/hillary-clinton-vs-bill-oreilly-the-conclusion/#comment-6604 Jersey McJones Sat, 03 May 2008 02:26:12 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=497#comment-6604 Boxer and Feinstein are not the be all and end all of senatorial conclusion. There are plenty of other potential votes. What the H is your point? Are you really so delluded that you believe "liberals" and "greeniacs" actually impact your way of life? What? Do you live in friggin' Oregon? Oh yeah, Hawaii! Hey, there's the perfect microcosm of America! Yeah! JMJ Boxer and Feinstein are not the be all and end all of senatorial conclusion. There are plenty of other potential votes. What the H is your point? Are you really so delluded that you believe “liberals” and “greeniacs” actually impact your way of life? What? Do you live in friggin’ Oregon? Oh yeah, Hawaii! Hey, there’s the perfect microcosm of America! Yeah!

JMJ

]]> By: micky2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/hillary-clinton-vs-bill-oreilly-the-conclusion/#comment-6603 micky2 Sat, 03 May 2008 01:53:14 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=497#comment-6603 JMJ: "This is not true. Environmentalists have NOTHING to do with why we have as few refineries (and nuclear palnts) as we have" Boxer and Fienstein have voted against it because of pressure from environmental groups who are worrisd about waste disposal. JMJ:
“This is not true. Environmentalists have NOTHING to do with why we have as few refineries (and nuclear palnts) as we have”

Boxer and Fienstein have voted against it because of pressure from environmental groups who are worrisd about waste disposal.

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/hillary-clinton-vs-bill-oreilly-the-conclusion/#comment-6602 Jersey McJones Sat, 03 May 2008 00:36:00 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=497#comment-6602 "Nobody mentioned the fact that the dollar is worth less than 60 cents." Excellent point! "Now add in the problem with the enviros blocking drilling here, no new refineries built here in the last 30 years," This is not true. Environmentalists have NOTHING to do with why we have as few refineries (and nuclear palnts) as we have. Refineries have been monopolized by a small cartel and downsized to maximize profit. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either lying about it, profiting from it, or ignorant of it. Remove the current value of the dollar, unregulated speculation, the war in the Middle East, and add worldwide reserves, and bango - you've got a natural $50 (or so) barrel of oil. Tell me otherwise with good stats and you'll prove nothing but your own cognitive dissonance. It's a fact. I also disagree about the states models out there. What ever happened to federalism, Martel? Is it only convenient when it's convenient? JMJ “Nobody mentioned the fact that the dollar is worth less than 60 cents.”

Excellent point!

“Now add in the problem with the enviros blocking drilling here, no new refineries built here in the last 30 years,”

This is not true. Environmentalists have NOTHING to do with why we have as few refineries (and nuclear palnts) as we have. Refineries have been monopolized by a small cartel and downsized to maximize profit. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either lying about it, profiting from it, or ignorant of it.

Remove the current value of the dollar, unregulated speculation, the war in the Middle East, and add worldwide reserves, and bango - you’ve got a natural $50 (or so) barrel of oil. Tell me otherwise with good stats and you’ll prove nothing but your own cognitive dissonance. It’s a fact.

I also disagree about the states models out there. What ever happened to federalism, Martel? Is it only convenient when it’s convenient?

JMJ

]]> By: charly martel http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/05/hillary-clinton-vs-bill-oreilly-the-conclusion/#comment-6601 charly martel Sat, 03 May 2008 00:15:51 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=497#comment-6601 Commodities speculation is part of the supply-demand cycle. Nobody mentioned the fact that the dollar is worth less than 60 cents. With China and India buying oil like mad and Euros being worth almost double the value of the dollar, what do you think will happen to the price. Now add in the problem with the enviros blocking drilling here, no new refineries built here in the last 30 years, different gas formulas in every state (some states have winter and summer formulas) and the irrational reactions when anybody mentions nuclear. How does the price go anywhere but up? Commodities speculation is part of the supply-demand cycle. Nobody mentioned the fact that the dollar is worth less than 60 cents. With China and India buying oil like mad and Euros being worth almost double the value of the dollar, what do you think will happen to the price. Now add in the problem with the enviros blocking drilling here, no new refineries built here in the last 30 years, different gas formulas in every state (some states have winter and summer formulas) and the irrational reactions when anybody mentions nuclear. How does the price go anywhere but up?

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