Man, can you read at all?
You keep dodging by talking about the few that do pay taxes when I’m pointing out the majority that dont and the cost of having them in this country compared to what little they contribute to the system they are draining.

Its working out pretty well in S.F. ?
When you just had Parrot , a former resident , tell you that everyone is leaving and the place is falling apart.
My preferred system?
Not at dude, what are you smoking ?
Newsom is putting a “carbon tax” on the 2008 ballot.
You know what that is dont you ? Its environmentalists gone wild is what it is. And Frsico cant understand why everyone is leaving ? Trash collection all the way up to any kind of emission is going to cost more now on top an already ridiculously expensive city. Its just another liberal attack on American business by means of a tax shift.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/12/07/news/state/17_06_3012_6_07.txt

As about San Fran: Obviously the tax system is working out pretty well there. Personally, I think it’s a bastion of the dangerously rich, but it seems to do pretty well for itself. It is truly “Liberal” in the original meaning of the word.

And yes, that can be a dangerous thing, but you only have your own preferred system to thank for it.

JMJ

Dude !
Who do you think you’re talking to ?
Some ignorant elementary teenager with gum stuck to her braces ?

The amount of under the table work paid to illegals is a huge problem.

Please, do some research and get off the moonbat express of ideological crap.
These are the facts bro !
http://www.alipac.us/article1283.html

By Keyonna Summers
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published June 6, 2006

In 1999, the year studied by the District-based Urban Institute, foreign-born households accounted for 17.7 percent of all taxes paid by area residents — a figure nearly identical to their share of the total population in 2000, which was 17.4 percent.
But the average illegal alien household and those with temporary protected status paid less than 2 percent of the region’s taxes, even though they made up more than 4 percent of households.

Illegal aliens “pay fewer taxes because they have lower incomes and because their compliance rate [voluntarily filing of income taxes by themselves or by employers] is somewhat lower than our other immigrant groups,” said Michael Fix, vice president of the Migration Policy Institute. “And their incomes are lower in large part because many have low levels of education and limited English skills.”

Randolph Capps, a senior research associate at the Urban Institute, estimates that about 55 percent of illegal aliens are paying into Social Security and Medicare by using fake Social Security numbers. The remaining 45 percent are not paying those taxes because their employers, who are not filing income taxes, are paying the illegals under the table.
Steven A. Camarota, research director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a District-based group that favors tougher immigration policies, wrote a study in 2004 that found illegal aliens cost the federal government $26.3 billion in services in 2002 but paid only $16 billion in taxes.

Illegal aliens that year created a net fiscal deficit of $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal alien household, he said. The costs reflected a burden on government services such as Medicaid, medical treatment for the uninsured, food-assistance programs, the federal prison and court systems, and federal aid to schools.

“It’s not irrelevant, but it’s kind of half the equation, really,” said Mr. Camarota, who estimated that granting legal status to illegal aliens would allow unskilled workers who avoid taxes more access to public services, inflating the deficit to $29 billion.

Parrothead, you’re a free market capitalist, right? So, why don’t you tell me why San Francisco is so expensive?

“Larry said that the Democratic party wasn’t the party of their fathers.”

Yes, Gayle, and that’s why the GOP took the South. Good riddance.

JMJ

After reading all of these comments I had to go back and check to see what your post was about. I guess I’m not awake yet.

I’m in total agreement with your friend, and perhaps a few minds were changed during that debate, or at least a few people may think about things a little more before stepping into the voting booth. At least one can hope. Larry said that the Democratic party wasn’t the party of their fathers. Amen to that! I truly wish more people would understand that.

JMJ