Comments on: Welcome Back Mr. Berlusconi

By: micky2

micky2 — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:32:19 +0000

Jersey.
Your statements in the last couple days can only lead me to believe that you are some kind of closet communist.
You give Chinas government a pass and you say we are not much better than them and that they are only a threat to themselves.
If you’re not a closet communist than you’ve given good reason for me to think you need your head checked.
Or put down the bottle.
Please, in order for it to appear as if you have an ounce of sanity left would you show me some kind of concensus that proves this or gives reason to believe it besides your opinion.

By: Jersey McJones

Jersey McJones — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:15:25 +0000

China’s democratic? Who of us said that???

Brian, we’re not much better than them.

JMJ

By: Tim B.

Tim B. — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:18:45 +0000

China - democratic?
Are you smoking crack?
Thank G-d their subs and fighters suck so bad or I would be worried about them.

By: Brian

Brian — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:43:56 +0000

I think Micky had a better gauge on why China scares me…the quality of life for vast majority of them is exceedingly low compared to the West…Their human rights violations, treatment of animals ( I’m hardly satisfied with our either…) is beyond cruelty…It seems trickle down economics is somewhat anathema ot them…The Pollution is an absolute disgrace…They are the poster child for our weariness ( even in moderate political circles…) for signing Kyoto type accords…

The Chinese Government scares me…

By: micky2

micky2 — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:56:09 +0000

Excuse me Jersey!
I think Brian was refering more to Human rights and quality of life being affected directly as result of the Chinese governments brutal means of control, and not talking about growth statistics that can be found in any one of a hundred articles on Chinas economy.
Holding down growth ? Old news.
Keeping down the value of currency ? Old news.
Curbing state projects ? Old news.
Trying to break oil addiction ? Joke.
Threat to anyone but themselves ? More liberal minimizing.
China is one of the reasons oil is so expensive across the world today. They are one of the top three consumers who have driven up the demand over available supply.
They are a nuclear power.
They have already killed Americans with their inferior imports.
They have been caught hacking into the pentagons computers.
They recently have spent 65 million on expanding its military.
They are rtying to expand its borders as far as Taiwan which could pose a threat to neighbors such as the Philippines and Japan,

Also,China disputes its boundaries in the South China Sea with a number of countries, including the Philippines. Beijing is also keenly wary of any Japanese expansion.
They developing a variety of missiles that could threaten the Japanese island of Okinawa, where thousands of American forces are based.
They also oppose Bush’s plans to build a missile shield to counter fields of about 30 missiles capable of hitting America.
And the Pentagon warned that China has more options to attack Taiwan
And then theres acquisition of Russian-made submarines, which could be used to cut off Taiwan’s sea lanes and to threaten American forces that might respond.

And that my friend is just the old news that you conveniently leave out.

China only a threat to themselves ?
ROTFLMFAO
Have another one while the cork is off.

By: Jersey McJones

Jersey McJones — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:07:20 +0000

Brian’s right. The price of growth in China has been steeper than almost any place else i9n modern times. That’s one of the reasons the Chinese government has been holding down growth of late - keeping down the yuan, slowing down massive state projects, etc. They’ve also been trrying to break off it’s fossil fuel addiction, which if they manage to do so, would be quite remarkable. But I digress from being scared. The Chinese do not seem to be a threat to anyone but themselves.

JMJ

By: Rigg

Rigg — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:15:33 +0000

Great points,
Great Blog….so far.
I’ll have to read more, but I like what I have read at this point.

George Bush will get his due in the future;
about the same time that Global Warming, Evolution, and Liberalism
are finally seen as the Flat Earth beliefs that they are.

I think I’ll add this blog to my blogroll until further notice.

Thanks for the space,
http://riggword.wordpress.com/

By: Brian

Brian — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:19:09 +0000

The Chinese Government scares me…from pollution to the quality of life experienced by the Chinese people…economic growth seems like quite a price to pay for such brutality etc…

By: Eagle 6

Eagle 6 — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:02:05 +0000

Eric, It is interesting to note that so many democratic countries are fed up with liberalism, recognizing it isn’t a sustainable method of governance, yet in the US we have half the population leaning toward a socialist agenda. I cringe when I hear comparisons between Obama and Kennedy…what a difference a few years makes… “Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country”… compared with, “You people are bitter because the government hasn’t done anything for you, so I am going to initiate programs to pay for jobs, insurance, homes, and other things to make you happy because we are Americans and we CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE”… JFK is rolling over in his grave. The cow tippers may elect another Democratic candidate, which will lead to another 20 or 30 year run of Republican presidents, but I’m hoping it won’t be this time around.

I read a story from the Atlanta Journal Constitution yesterday. The NYTs guest writer bashed Pres Bush about his lack of concern for universal health care and described how certain people are dead, who would be alive today, if they had had health insurance. What he doesn’t mention is that these people who didn’t want to spend money for check-ups because they couldn’t afford them had computers with high speed internet access, cell phones, air conditioning, cars, flush toilets, carpet, stoves, microwaves, and refrigerators. It’s like abortion. They had a choice between paying for health insurance or paying for all of the above. Likewise, people have a choice between engaging in activities that lead to pregnancy and not engaging in those activities. I am pro choice…a far cry from the entitlement “what can the government do for me” crowd. I’m tired and am tempted to join the Michigan Militia up north and let the world go away…the “gimme” crowd doesn’t like the cold that much…

By: micky2

micky2 — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:47:47 +0000

Everything you just said was pathetically insane.
I wont even diginfy all that crap with a response other than this.
China is one the biggest offenders of just about everything right in this worls and you give them credit like you do pre iraq.
Absolutley disgusting to think that someone can even entertain the thought that its all O.K.
I live around more differfent sects of chinese people than any other population in this country.
And I have done so for 40 years . I am more familiar with the reasons these people were glad as hell to get out of there than you will ever be dude.
So once again, spare me your O so great knowledge of everything in this world.
That was one of the dumbest and most reprehensable statements you have ever made