Comments on: My Meeting Daniel Pipes http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/04/my-meeting-daniel-pipes/ Drinking the love from her Holy Grail Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:46:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Pandora http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/04/my-meeting-daniel-pipes/#comment-10536 Pandora Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:42:00 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=472#comment-10536 I totally agree with Eric when he wrote "I thank God that Dr. Daniel Pipes is able to spread this message as effectively as he does." Of course there is always the opposite response to Dr. Pipes with those who do not agree with him; therefore his message is out of step with some of the more liberal-minded people, or the more misinformed, as I prefer to call them. There is nothing frightening about Daniel Pipes, he is not a scare-monger as some have labeled him, nor is he such a "neocon" that he isn't able to bend a little. However he is a prophet of sorts, and some of his predictions have come true, and in retrospect many should have listened to him. As for Israel, it is a sad day when the jewel of the earth seems to be discarded by the world, and the survival of Israel, not just as an ally to the United States, but as its own sovereign state, seems to be a saga of never-ending wars, political struggles and fence-building. As long as there are humans inhabiting the earth, there will be the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, as there has been for thousands of years. Only God can end this and He will one of these days. Oh, by the way, I have also met Daniel Pipes and know he is most sincere, serious and although might possess a certain sense of humor, I don't think he would welcome anyone singing "Danny Boy" to him! But I understand so well the temptation . . . ! I totally agree with Eric when he wrote “I thank God that Dr. Daniel Pipes is able to spread this message as effectively as he does.” Of course there is always the opposite response to Dr. Pipes with those who do not agree with him; therefore his message is out of step with some of the more liberal-minded people, or the more misinformed, as I prefer to call them. There is nothing frightening about Daniel Pipes, he is not a scare-monger as some have labeled him, nor is he such a “neocon” that he isn’t able to bend a little. However he is a prophet of sorts, and some of his predictions have come true, and in retrospect many should have listened to him. As for Israel, it is a sad day when the jewel of the earth seems to be discarded by the world, and the survival of Israel, not just as an ally to the United States, but as its own sovereign state, seems to be a saga of never-ending wars, political struggles and fence-building. As long as there are humans inhabiting the earth, there will be the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, as there has been for thousands of years. Only God can end this and He will one of these days. Oh, by the way, I have also met Daniel Pipes and know he is most sincere, serious and although might possess a certain sense of humor, I don’t think he would welcome anyone singing “Danny Boy” to him! But I understand so well the temptation . . . !

]]> By: TJ Skylark http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/04/my-meeting-daniel-pipes/#comment-6000 TJ Skylark Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:13:31 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=472#comment-6000 Hamas leader Yunis Al-Astal proclaims Islam will soon conquer Israel & Rome. Hamas playing bad cop; Fatah good cop here. Pope Benedict XVI will be addressing the United Nations soon elevating terrorist Abbas to PM status and Bush will be grinning before the cameras. Bush chose May 60th year of Israel's independence to give east Jerusalem freely to the terrorist Abbas. 60 minutes showed Bush's democratic Iraq at work. One billion in US dollars is missing. This money the Iraqi government can't find is being used to kill US soldiers. US state department is investigating. Condo & Bush seem determined in destroying Americas security and Israel's security before January 20, 2009. Even Israeli generals wonder about Bush when Bush moves to sell the latest jet fighters and radar technology to the Saudis. Is Bush really interested in democracy? Ask the Tibetans who are abused by the Chinese. Bush is still going to the Olympics in the true spirit of his grandfather Prescott Bush. President Bush is like a Trojan Horse inside Jerusalem's gates; Trojan horse will become activated upon Bush's return visit to Israel in May. Good show. Abbas & pope Benedict XVI meetings behind closed doors then before the anti-Semitic UN the infallible pope pleads Abbas's case. Jewish homes on fire won't matter, Darfur won't matter and the Tibetan crisis won't be considered. Tony Blair, Bush, Abbas, Putin, Condo, Moon and the pope shall make Abbas the butcher of 11 athletes in Munich a saint crowning him with east Jerusalem and Samaria. Criminals on USA's Death Row have to be asking themselves when looking at Abbas's crimes, "What the hell am I doing here?" People in the USA are executed for crimes far less than what Abbas did. When all these anti-Semites are coming together against Israel, one might believe the best answer is a quick change in Israel's government where a new party would come together to represent Israel's 6,000,000 Jews. Hamas leader Yunis Al-Astal proclaims Islam will soon conquer Israel & Rome. Hamas playing bad cop; Fatah good cop here. Pope Benedict XVI will be addressing the United Nations soon elevating terrorist Abbas to PM status and Bush will be grinning before the cameras. Bush chose May 60th year of Israel’s independence to give east Jerusalem freely to the terrorist Abbas. 60 minutes showed Bush’s democratic Iraq at work. One billion in US dollars is missing. This money the Iraqi government can’t find is being used to kill US soldiers. US state department is investigating. Condo & Bush seem determined in destroying Americas security and Israel’s security before January 20, 2009. Even Israeli generals wonder about Bush when Bush moves to sell the latest jet fighters and radar technology to the Saudis. Is Bush really interested in democracy? Ask the Tibetans who are abused by the Chinese. Bush is still going to the Olympics in the true spirit of his grandfather Prescott Bush. President Bush is like a Trojan Horse inside Jerusalem’s gates; Trojan horse will become activated upon Bush’s return visit to Israel in May. Good show. Abbas & pope Benedict XVI meetings behind closed doors then before the anti-Semitic UN the infallible pope pleads Abbas’s case. Jewish homes on fire won’t matter, Darfur won’t matter and the Tibetan crisis won’t be considered. Tony Blair, Bush, Abbas, Putin, Condo, Moon and the pope shall make Abbas the butcher of 11 athletes in Munich a saint crowning him with east Jerusalem and Samaria. Criminals on USA’s Death Row have to be asking themselves when looking at Abbas’s crimes, “What the hell am I doing here?” People in the USA are executed for crimes far less than what Abbas did. When all these anti-Semites are coming together against Israel, one might believe the best answer is a quick change in Israel’s government where a new party would come together to represent Israel’s 6,000,000 Jews.

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/04/my-meeting-daniel-pipes/#comment-5990 Jersey McJones Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:24:00 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=472#comment-5990 But Eagle, it's just sooooooooooooo insane. I hear you, Iget what you're saying, but it's sooooooooooooo unreasonably, irrationally, unintelledgibly (sp?) insane. I guess it's sorta fine by me too, but I wish we could at least put it in coherent cantext. (Sorry, I was reading Dawkins earlier today and I'm feeling annoyingly critical). Brian et al, we are the West. We are the most prosperous people on Earth. We're lucky to have been born into it and we're deserving of more when we add to it (rather than just leech it like Baby Boomer Laizzez Fairers). We have our problems, but we usually resolve them relatively peaceably. We need not fear the poor, resource-centric, unenfranchised Third World. All this talk of fear of Islam strikes me as completely and utterly pointless. I really don't care what most of the world thinks of America, as long as I stay out of their business, they can just stay out of mine. Israel is the sticker here, not America. We are and should be their friend, but we should never be so misguided as to believe that the problems we face here in America are exactly the same as those in Israel. This isn't apples and oranges - this is grapes and watermelons. America is a massive empire, Israel is the small Jewish country. Speaking as an ostensibly Catholic atheist who never had a problem with "Jews," Israel has a big problem. A really, really, really big problem. It's like if a bunch of educated suburbanites suddenly moved into Camden, NJ, tried to gentrify the whole town, and then complained about the neighborhood! And this after leaving a bad situation in the first place! I would never begrudge Judaism Israel., but I often wonder if it was worth it. JMJ But Eagle, it’s just sooooooooooooo insane. I hear you, Iget what you’re saying, but it’s sooooooooooooo unreasonably, irrationally, unintelledgibly (sp?) insane. I guess it’s sorta fine by me too, but I wish we could at least put it in coherent cantext. (Sorry, I was reading Dawkins earlier today and I’m feeling annoyingly critical).

Brian et al, we are the West. We are the most prosperous people on Earth. We’re lucky to have been born into it and we’re deserving of more when we add to it (rather than just leech it like Baby Boomer Laizzez Fairers). We have our problems, but we usually resolve them relatively peaceably. We need not fear the poor, resource-centric, unenfranchised Third World. All this talk of fear of Islam strikes me as completely and utterly pointless.

I really don’t care what most of the world thinks of America, as long as I stay out of their business, they can just stay out of mine. Israel is the sticker here, not America. We are and should be their friend, but we should never be so misguided as to believe that the problems we face here in America are exactly the same as those in Israel. This isn’t apples and oranges - this is grapes and watermelons. America is a massive empire, Israel is the small Jewish country. Speaking as an ostensibly Catholic atheist who never had a problem with “Jews,” Israel has a big problem. A really, really, really big problem. It’s like if a bunch of educated suburbanites suddenly moved into Camden, NJ, tried to gentrify the whole town, and then complained about the neighborhood! And this after leaving a bad situation in the first place! I would never begrudge Judaism Israel., but I often wonder if it was worth it.

JMJ

]]> By: Brian http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/04/my-meeting-daniel-pipes/#comment-5999 Brian Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:52:11 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=472#comment-5999 I've had the privilege of attending speeches by Dr. Pipes in 2001 as well as last year ...He tells it as he sees it in his professorial style... Very few understand or are willing to articulate the bottom line as clearly as him...We may not like it, but he's right on...and his knowledge of Islam is far greater than the vast majority of those representing Muslim groups in North America...he is a true scholar... I’ve had the privilege of attending speeches by Dr. Pipes in 2001 as well as last year …He tells it as he sees it in his professorial style…

Very few understand or are willing to articulate the bottom line as clearly as him…We may not like it, but he’s right on…and his knowledge of Islam is far greater than the vast majority of those representing Muslim groups in North America…he is a true scholar…

]]> By: Eagle 6 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/04/my-meeting-daniel-pipes/#comment-5998 Eagle 6 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:41:44 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=472#comment-5998 Jersey, This is a Biblical thing to which you don't subscribe - many faiths have different variations, but they all agree that Israel is the chosen nation and will be in existence during the end times. If one is not disposed to believe in one or any of these variations, that's fine by me! Jersey, This is a Biblical thing to which you don’t subscribe - many faiths have different variations, but they all agree that Israel is the chosen nation and will be in existence during the end times. If one is not disposed to believe in one or any of these variations, that’s fine by me!

]]> By: charly martel http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/04/my-meeting-daniel-pipes/#comment-5997 charly martel Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:39:04 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=472#comment-5997 Daniel Pipes is scary because he is telling the unvarnished truth. There is no solution that won't cost many lives. Foreign aid sent there buys more weapons than food, and is probably seen as tribute rather than humanitarian aid. The mosques spread hatred and glamorize martyrdom. The venom is fed to children as soon as they can talk. What can you do with people like that? Daniel Pipes is scary because he is telling the unvarnished truth. There is no solution that won’t cost many lives. Foreign aid sent there buys more weapons than food, and is probably seen as tribute rather than humanitarian aid. The mosques spread hatred and glamorize martyrdom. The venom is fed to children as soon as they can talk. What can you do with people like that?

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/04/my-meeting-daniel-pipes/#comment-5996 Jersey McJones Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:36:25 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=472#comment-5996 Until the end of what, Eagle? JMJ Until the end of what, Eagle?

JMJ

]]> By: Eagle 6 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/04/my-meeting-daniel-pipes/#comment-5995 Eagle 6 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:52:09 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=472#comment-5995 Eric, Interesting article. Too much to cover in too little time, but from the gates, his comment, "Israel lives under a curse, that being the threat of extinction.” is a non-starter from the get-go. Yes, Israel lives under a curse, but it's because of past sins - not eradicating all non Israelis when directed - that they are cursed which is likely why they don't cut off the power and water - because it's a self-inflicted burden. Having said that, he provides catchy tidbits that capture nuances relevant to the Arab/Israeli/Christian struggle and recovers nicely with, "The right of Israel to exist is not, and will never be, negotiable." They will be there until the end - whether the US is there or not... Eric, Interesting article. Too much to cover in too little time, but from the gates, his comment, “Israel lives under a curse, that being the threat of extinction.” is a non-starter from the get-go. Yes, Israel lives under a curse, but it’s because of past sins - not eradicating all non Israelis when directed - that they are cursed which is likely why they don’t cut off the power and water - because it’s a self-inflicted burden. Having said that, he provides catchy tidbits that capture nuances relevant to the Arab/Israeli/Christian struggle and recovers nicely with, “The right of Israel to exist is not, and will never be, negotiable.” They will be there until the end - whether the US is there or not…

]]> By: john clements http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/04/my-meeting-daniel-pipes/#comment-5994 john clements Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:13:05 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=472#comment-5994 Excellent post. Pipes, along with Frank Gaffney, really understand this stuff. They "get it". Unfortunately our own President and Secretary of State Condi Rice, don't "get it'. What boggles my mind is that some uninformed or misguided folks actually want Rice on the ticket with McCain. As it is now, I really feel there is no candidate to support. If McCain puts Rice on the ticket with him, well, there is no way I could support such a ticket. Would have to make a write in, or set the election out altogether. Excellent post. Pipes, along with Frank Gaffney, really understand this stuff. They “get it”. Unfortunately our own President and Secretary of State Condi Rice, don’t “get it’. What boggles my mind is that some uninformed or misguided folks actually want Rice on the ticket with McCain. As it is now, I really feel there is no candidate to support. If McCain puts Rice on the ticket with him, well, there is no way I could support such a ticket. Would have to make a write in, or set the election out altogether.

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/04/my-meeting-daniel-pipes/#comment-5993 Jersey McJones Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:55:54 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=472#comment-5993 Daniel Pipes really scares me. Not personally but geopolitically, he really scares me. His rhetoric reminds me of some pretty deadly programs of the past. It's his right to speak his mind, and I'm thankful for it, but man 'o man does he say some pretty scary things. His words read like the beat of the drums of war - aggressive war. JMJ Daniel Pipes really scares me. Not personally but geopolitically, he really scares me. His rhetoric reminds me of some pretty deadly programs of the past. It’s his right to speak his mind, and I’m thankful for it, but man ‘o man does he say some pretty scary things. His words read like the beat of the drums of war - aggressive war.

JMJ

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