I myself stated above in the beggining that private donation is greatest in this country second only to govermental support.

I said;
“Faith based organizations contribute more to our society by means of philanthropy than any other organization in this country besides the government.”

So why you had to bring up federal expenditures in that area made no sense at all. Unless you knew I was right and you had to obfuscate as if you had some legitimate point to make.

And since the secular society here resides mostly on the left and the christian society resides mostly on the right along with verifiable (not anectodal or poll driven) statistics as the authors mention ontop of the fact that 60% of the country is christian and most of them voting republican the fact still remains that we are the charitable ones while you guys just sit around and bitch about everything expecting someone else to always do something about it. And as soon as we protest the methods applied to helping these people we are racist, bigots or mysogynst. Or you accuse us of forcing children who are victims of rape to have the baby. When the real issue was babys concieved in consentual sex.
How utterly childish and ridiculous.
And weak.
When people care in different ways it doesnt mean that the alternate methods of care make that person mean and uncaring.

As for the rest, I’m done with this. you’re denying facts because you don’y like the sources (the “full-blown moonbat” site was applauding the level of privare charittable giving, and the wiki was simply an easy-to-read version of the same data you’d get from the gov’t), yet your sources and data are all anecdotal, poll driven, and assuming that most religious people are rightists when that would be physically impossible given that people have not been voting GOP even though most people are religious.

So, I’m done here. I can’t argue your pseudo-logic.

JMJ

I myself have refered you to a recource bed containing hundreds of links claiming and backing my position wuth real numbers from economists and not partisan authors and editors.
The reason you cant find any leftist publications proving Dems give more than Cons is because the evidence just is not there.
The right has the aspect of being more generous of the left and so they will brag about it, naturally, why wouldnt they ?
So you are more apt to find these stories in publications that lean to the right.
In being fair I decided to show you the ones where the authors and economist claim no allegeance to one side or the other
Nice try though bub, get with the program

The fact of the matter is that we the right give more than the left.
We have not turned on pregnant children, minorities, illegals as you say we do.
We pay just as much taxes as the left but also perform more charity than the left.
Were that money ends up and goes to is for another debate, can you please try to understand that ?

I know you’re loosing your a** here and you would love to deflect by changing subjects.
Unfortunatly I have a memeory. And I remember the subject of this debate.
And the proof is overwhelming and undeniable that the right gives more voluntarily than the left.
Period, do the research. Every honest poll and study says so.
I have provided you with the links and heading under which to google it with and supplied you with reliable documents and statistics.
All you have once again is a bunch of hot air

JMJ

“US charitable giving hit a record 295.02 billion dollars in 2006″ - this from ‘07, and regarding the Katrina bump: http://www.terradaily.com/reports/US_Charitable_Giving_Sets_New_Record_Topping_Katrina_Effort_999.html - And this left group applauding the increase. Here’s a easy-to-read budget of the US in 2006: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget,_2006

Now, you tell me what the difference is. Add up the entitlements, entitlement debt maintenance, the VA, Justice- some of it anyway -, c’mon. Get real.

JMJ

JMJ

I have proven with out a doubt that you are wrong.
The first publication is from a man who claims no allegiance to either right or left and everything he has studied is verifiable.
If you google ” conservatives more generous ” You will come up with a ton of statistics and charts and polls and surveys that back me up. What you were looking at was just one page of about a hundred.
Tax dollars are N O T T H E P O I N T !!!!! FOCUS DUDE !!

WE the right and the religious right cough up more contributions in the form of blood, money and volunteerism.
And since 60% of the country is christian it would only be safe to say that christians pay a majority of the taxes that go to aleveate poverty.
Ontop of what we give to churchs and charities that makes you guys , the leffties and bunch of cry babies who do nothing and expect everyone else to foot the bill.
For you to say we have turned on these people is just plain BS.
We just dont coddle them and give them handouts and offer simplistic solutions that offer no help in the long run.
Look at all these people who have been voting democratic for 50 years now , where and what has it gotten them ?

The countries that are suffering because of extreme religiosity are the ones that allow religion to intertwine with government.
So dont even try to bring that into this subject.

As for forcing children to have babies, I find that so reprehensible that I will not further address it for the sake of my sanity.

Tax dollars do for more for the poor and needy than all the charities combined multiplied by about 7-8 times. It is with the modern SECULAR democracy and the welfare state that poverty has been alleviated more than at any time in history. In fact, the worst times in history for poverty, the worse places in the world for poverty, are all marked by extreme religiosity. Period.

JMJ