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	<title>Comments on: Spitzer Goes Quitzer and a Hag gets Bagged</title>
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		<title>By: deaconblue</title>
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		<dc:creator>deaconblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Micky- You can prop him up all you like.  Just be sure to offer him a blindfold and a cigarette first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micky- You can prop him up all you like.  Just be sure to offer him a blindfold and a cigarette first.</p>
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		<title>By: deaconblue</title>
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		<dc:creator>deaconblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stealing from the City?  HA!  The bailout from the 70's was only paid off a few years ago, and until very recently, the City acocunted for 48% of State rvenues, while eating up 54% of the State budget.  Upstate dollars went to keeping NYC out of bankruptcy, all while Carey and Cuomo drove businesses and jobs out of Upstate like it was going out of style.  So what happens when Upstate needs to get back on track economically?  Whinging from City-crats.  A high rise condo project some how is more important than the Luther Forest Tech Park, or the Rochester Industrial Park revitalization.  We get how bad off the City is, and how it needs all this funding for hand outs and subsidies, while the property tax rates, and income tax rates keep going up.  We get law suits by City-crats to force the State to pump more money into bad situations in NYC.

Then we get this list of people who make it all so much better:
Ada Smith, Efrain Gonzalez, Diane Gordon, Karim Camara, John Sabini, Clarence Norman, Gloria Davis, Roger Green, and Brian McLaughlin.  How much corruption can we afford out of the City-crats?

And "it might as well be Arkansas?"  Please.  So we wouldn't have runaway socialized hand outs.  So we might actually be able to take care of our own problems, with out interference.  So we might actually get people who care about the State of NY rather than corrupt City-crat machine bosses, rampant fraud, and qualified individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stealing from the City?  HA!  The bailout from the 70&#8217;s was only paid off a few years ago, and until very recently, the City acocunted for 48% of State rvenues, while eating up 54% of the State budget.  Upstate dollars went to keeping NYC out of bankruptcy, all while Carey and Cuomo drove businesses and jobs out of Upstate like it was going out of style.  So what happens when Upstate needs to get back on track economically?  Whinging from City-crats.  A high rise condo project some how is more important than the Luther Forest Tech Park, or the Rochester Industrial Park revitalization.  We get how bad off the City is, and how it needs all this funding for hand outs and subsidies, while the property tax rates, and income tax rates keep going up.  We get law suits by City-crats to force the State to pump more money into bad situations in NYC.</p>
<p>Then we get this list of people who make it all so much better:<br />
Ada Smith, Efrain Gonzalez, Diane Gordon, Karim Camara, John Sabini, Clarence Norman, Gloria Davis, Roger Green, and Brian McLaughlin.  How much corruption can we afford out of the City-crats?</p>
<p>And &#8220;it might as well be Arkansas?&#8221;  Please.  So we wouldn&#8217;t have runaway socialized hand outs.  So we might actually be able to take care of our own problems, with out interference.  So we might actually get people who care about the State of NY rather than corrupt City-crat machine bosses, rampant fraud, and qualified individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: micky2</title>
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		<dc:creator>micky2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deacon.
I probably never will reach Jersey.
But I like to keep him propped up in front of the world so we all know what to look out for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deacon.<br />
I probably never will reach Jersey.<br />
But I like to keep him propped up in front of the world so we all know what to look out for.</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey McJones</title>
		<link>http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/03/spitzer-goes-quitzer-and-a-hag-gets-bagged/#comment-5559</link>
		<dc:creator>Jersey McJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything north of Westchester county is Upstate to us cityites.  I have family in Hudson, Glens Falls, and Albany.  I also know that without the revenues from NYC and the MEtro area, it may as well be Arkansas.  I've got you pegged pretty good - you're okay with stealing from the city but not listening to the city people without whom you'd be no better off than the Beverly Hillbillies without the oil.

JMJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything north of Westchester county is Upstate to us cityites.  I have family in Hudson, Glens Falls, and Albany.  I also know that without the revenues from NYC and the MEtro area, it may as well be Arkansas.  I&#8217;ve got you pegged pretty good - you&#8217;re okay with stealing from the city but not listening to the city people without whom you&#8217;d be no better off than the Beverly Hillbillies without the oil.</p>
<p>JMJ</p>
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		<title>By: deaconblue</title>
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		<dc:creator>deaconblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wappingers Falls is not Upstate.  It's the Lower-Hudson Valley.  Dutchess County is not Upstate, well, to City folk it is, but not to the rest of the State.  And Eldred is more Southern Tier, but barely so, and definitely not Upstate.  Try living North of Catskill and Hudson.  Try going up to Warrensburg.  Go out to Chittenango or New Hartford.  How about Watertown?  Rouses Point?  That's Upstate.  Not the commuter communities that pretend to be "rural" to salve the conscience's of those who work in the City but won't live there. Rockland County is not Upstate.  Putnam County is not Upstate.

No, I've got you pegged pretty good.  I've been dealing with people like you all my life. You're no different than any other City-crat who thinks that they know what's best for the State as a whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wappingers Falls is not Upstate.  It&#8217;s the Lower-Hudson Valley.  Dutchess County is not Upstate, well, to City folk it is, but not to the rest of the State.  And Eldred is more Southern Tier, but barely so, and definitely not Upstate.  Try living North of Catskill and Hudson.  Try going up to Warrensburg.  Go out to Chittenango or New Hartford.  How about Watertown?  Rouses Point?  That&#8217;s Upstate.  Not the commuter communities that pretend to be &#8220;rural&#8221; to salve the conscience&#8217;s of those who work in the City but won&#8217;t live there. Rockland County is not Upstate.  Putnam County is not Upstate.</p>
<p>No, I&#8217;ve got you pegged pretty good.  I&#8217;ve been dealing with people like you all my life. You&#8217;re no different than any other City-crat who thinks that they know what&#8217;s best for the State as a whole.</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey McJones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jersey McJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Micky,

"And now I’m playing shuffleboard in Florida."

LOL!  And loving every minute of it!!!

Deacon,

I hate to disappoint (and once again show that you are not a very good judge of whom you speak), but I lived Upstate too, Deacon.  Wappingers Falls.  And I worked up in Eldrid too.  I still have people in NYS and spent a lot of time up there.  I have a pretty good fix on Upstate.  It's huge and diverse population, with old ethnic enclaves, decayed industrial towns, moneyed burbs and exurbs, poor and moneyed rural areas.  I know NYS.  That's why I made the comment I made - "A few scattered hicks Upstate."  But as usual, you misstated what I said and said, "The proof is in misunderstanding what goes on Upstate, and how upstaters think."  I never lumped the dynamic demographics of Upstate into one group.  I said "a few scattered hicks."  Many Upstaters are quite progressive and with-it.  Most are just regular folks like everyone else.  But I do know this - for all their issues and needs, ESCR is nowhere near the top of their concerns.  They're a more serious and adult electorate than that.  On the other hand, when the "illegal license" issue came up, the racist nastiness came out of the basement of their souls.  Oh well.  Sometimes stupidity still trumps good sense.

JMJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micky,</p>
<p>&#8220;And now I’m playing shuffleboard in Florida.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL!  And loving every minute of it!!!</p>
<p>Deacon,</p>
<p>I hate to disappoint (and once again show that you are not a very good judge of whom you speak), but I lived Upstate too, Deacon.  Wappingers Falls.  And I worked up in Eldrid too.  I still have people in NYS and spent a lot of time up there.  I have a pretty good fix on Upstate.  It&#8217;s huge and diverse population, with old ethnic enclaves, decayed industrial towns, moneyed burbs and exurbs, poor and moneyed rural areas.  I know NYS.  That&#8217;s why I made the comment I made - &#8220;A few scattered hicks Upstate.&#8221;  But as usual, you misstated what I said and said, &#8220;The proof is in misunderstanding what goes on Upstate, and how upstaters think.&#8221;  I never lumped the dynamic demographics of Upstate into one group.  I said &#8220;a few scattered hicks.&#8221;  Many Upstaters are quite progressive and with-it.  Most are just regular folks like everyone else.  But I do know this - for all their issues and needs, ESCR is nowhere near the top of their concerns.  They&#8217;re a more serious and adult electorate than that.  On the other hand, when the &#8220;illegal license&#8221; issue came up, the racist nastiness came out of the basement of their souls.  Oh well.  Sometimes stupidity still trumps good sense.</p>
<p>JMJ</p>
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		<title>By: deaconblue</title>
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		<dc:creator>deaconblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh, so much becomes clear now.  Jersey is a City-crat!
The proof is in misunderstanding what goes on Upstate, and how upstaters think.  He's too used to what passes for analysis from the NY Times, which is almost always off the mark.

Forget it micky, you'll never reach him.  Never.  City-crats live in their own pretty little world.  Which ends at Jones Beach to the East, the Hudson river to the West, and Yonkers to the North.  Little outside of that matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh, so much becomes clear now.  Jersey is a City-crat!<br />
The proof is in misunderstanding what goes on Upstate, and how upstaters think.  He&#8217;s too used to what passes for analysis from the NY Times, which is almost always off the mark.</p>
<p>Forget it micky, you&#8217;ll never reach him.  Never.  City-crats live in their own pretty little world.  Which ends at Jones Beach to the East, the Hudson river to the West, and Yonkers to the North.  Little outside of that matters.</p>
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		<title>By: micky2</title>
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		<dc:creator>micky2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JMJ;
"The “Jersey” in Jersey McJones ain’t from Cape May. I’m a native New Yorker and spent the majority of my life in the Metro area."

And now I'm playing shuffleboard in Florida.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JMJ;<br />
&#8220;The “Jersey” in Jersey McJones ain’t from Cape May. I’m a native New Yorker and spent the majority of my life in the Metro area.&#8221;</p>
<p>And now I&#8217;m playing shuffleboard in Florida.</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey McJones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jersey McJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Those of us that have watched Ny Politics for years upon years know who Paterson is."

Well, my friend, you're talking to one of "us."  I've been following his career for years upon years as well.  The "Jersey" in Jersey McJones ain't from Cape May.  I'm a native New Yorker and spent the majority of my life in the Metro area.

Paterson is very bright and very well connected.  And you're right about this:  Paterson is very uncontroversial and bipartisan.  He's rides smooth down the line, so to speak - but really he's just patiently progressive.  He's like Spitzer, but without the hookers (God, I hope!!!) and the tempestuousness (same disorder, I assume).  He works without all the wrangling and hooplah.  He's an interesting guy.  I like him.  Always have.

As for ESCR - that's not controversial in NY.  New Yorkers are too politically mature for that silly "issue."  You should know that if you're one of "us that have watched Ny Politics for years upon years."  A few scattered hicks  Upstate and a few hard-core Guy Molinari-type Catholics may get their blood up (if even), maybe some of the pandering GOP richies in LI, some NYer's care about silly issues like that, but most of the state is pretty liberal on social/religious issues.

JMJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Those of us that have watched Ny Politics for years upon years know who Paterson is.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, my friend, you&#8217;re talking to one of &#8220;us.&#8221;  I&#8217;ve been following his career for years upon years as well.  The &#8220;Jersey&#8221; in Jersey McJones ain&#8217;t from Cape May.  I&#8217;m a native New Yorker and spent the majority of my life in the Metro area.</p>
<p>Paterson is very bright and very well connected.  And you&#8217;re right about this:  Paterson is very uncontroversial and bipartisan.  He&#8217;s rides smooth down the line, so to speak - but really he&#8217;s just patiently progressive.  He&#8217;s like Spitzer, but without the hookers (God, I hope!!!) and the tempestuousness (same disorder, I assume).  He works without all the wrangling and hooplah.  He&#8217;s an interesting guy.  I like him.  Always have.</p>
<p>As for ESCR - that&#8217;s not controversial in NY.  New Yorkers are too politically mature for that silly &#8220;issue.&#8221;  You should know that if you&#8217;re one of &#8220;us that have watched Ny Politics for years upon years.&#8221;  A few scattered hicks  Upstate and a few hard-core Guy Molinari-type Catholics may get their blood up (if even), maybe some of the pandering GOP richies in LI, some NYer&#8217;s care about silly issues like that, but most of the state is pretty liberal on social/religious issues.</p>
<p>JMJ</p>
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		<title>By: deaconblue</title>
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		<dc:creator>deaconblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A big surprise?  Hardly.  Those of us that have watched Ny Politics for years upon years know who Paterson is.  If anything, I think you're in for a disappointment.  David knows the legislature, how it works, and its cliques and factions.  He also knows that he needs to work with them to get anything done.  He's not going to advance or promote any sort of potentially controversial agenda (except Stem Cell Research), nor is he going to take on anyone with power or influence.  I have no doubt he will be capable, but he's not going to be dynamic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A big surprise?  Hardly.  Those of us that have watched Ny Politics for years upon years know who Paterson is.  If anything, I think you&#8217;re in for a disappointment.  David knows the legislature, how it works, and its cliques and factions.  He also knows that he needs to work with them to get anything done.  He&#8217;s not going to advance or promote any sort of potentially controversial agenda (except Stem Cell Research), nor is he going to take on anyone with power or influence.  I have no doubt he will be capable, but he&#8217;s not going to be dynamic.</p>
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