Comments on: I Don’t CAIR

By: Chicagoray40

Chicagoray40 — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:48:08 +0000

AS for your post Eric fine work as always, and the link to the Daily Kos writer “TroutMan” is a chilling little piece in itself alright as is his picture. I just don;t even understand where these people were schooled in this country to generate the thoughts and raging anti semetic feelings and views that they possess and espouse.

I can’t understand where any moral equivelancy in humanity can be attached to the Muslims and Islam period. It’s pure unadulterated madness. A mental disorder as Savage so aptly defines and refers to that ideology that defends the murderous Muslims and their activities that all center around violence. Religion of Peace my a**

By: Chicagoray40

Chicagoray40 — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:41:25 +0000

“Find me one person who cant do anything now that they couldnt do pre patriot act.”
Mickey I can find someone……
Our enemies and people overseas who don’t deserve any protection under our constitution that many Obama and his equally dangerous supporters like to extend to cover just about anyone, just like they try to extend Geneva Convention protections to terrorists wearing no country uniform yet engage our troops on battlefields. Exactly who the Patriot act is designed to cripple.

If any AMerican complains they’ve lost rights then they’re doing something wrong because we normal law abding citizens haven’t lost a damn thing and are not afraid of the Patriot act we’re more afraid of the so called Americans who oppose it.

By: Norman E. Hooben

Norman E. Hooben — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:33:34 +0000

Great post…
After reading the entire post I was a bit taken back by the petty arguments concerning
the Partriot Act…I thought the post was about CAIR. The comments following seemed to drift away from the subject and frankly, I got bored with the non-sensical identifiers as in, “My left thumb is a smarter…” These kind of words only serve to identify the user of such as a child looking for an excuse for something but cannot find his mama to save him from the bogey man.
The read was somewhat long and clearly displays some fundamental research which would make anyone in academia proud to submit such a paper for a grade…in my opinion an A+.
I wasn’t aware that David Frumm was being sued by CAIR…any follow-ups wold be appreciated…
David Frumm is the author of several books inclding, “The Right Man” which I have read and found quite interesting…especially that which goes on behind the scenes.

Keep up the good work…

ps: I would like to cross-post the above onto my website if it’s OK with you.

By: Siddah

Siddah — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:04:55 +0000

Eric, Was in the audience and thoroughly appreciate your recap posted here!
Well done.

By: micky2

micky2 — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:47:25 +0000

Jersey.
I know my rights and the meaning of them.
This is why I get upset when people cry about loosing rights but cant point to one they have lost, like you.
I just dont see it as a conspiracy to undermine my rights like you do.
As a matter of fact I see it as a tool that has saved lives by the numerous operations it has interupted.
And I’ll bet money your next thought is for me to prove it has saved lives.
Thats what every lib has done so far to me in the Patriot act debate.
And that is chicken crap to do that because its like taking a flu shot and then saying theres no proof it worked.

JMJ;
“You love your big momma government and trust it with your life. I do not.”

But you and every other lib dem moonbat wants the government to run everything.
Health care ? The government would definatly have more effect on your life than the patriot act does.
You guys are such hypocrits and want everything both ways.
You say you dont trust the government to do the single most important thing it is supposed to do. PROTECT ITS CITIZENS !
But you trust them to handle your health care. Get real

As cair terroris points out you are on the wrong side of the facts here.
If we were being monitord in the fashion of WW2 Nazis you could say that the enemy has a victory. But untill you can prove that we have lost any rights or access to our normal lives or have to do anything differently your arguement is ridiculous and baseless.
We have not had an attack on our soil since 911. And its not because we were doing things the way the Dems would have us do them.
As Cair terroris said better than I did;
“If such patterns are found a judge must issue the feds a court order to allow them to do actual surveillence. So how does that remove due process from the equation? Answer , it doesn’t.”

“Find me one person who cant do anything now that they couldnt do pre patriot act.”
You just cant answer the question , can you ?
Name me one person who has lost any rights as a result of the patriot act.
If anyone had lost any rights due to the patriot act it would be all over the media like white on rice
What rights have we lost ?
What rights do I not have today that I did not have previous to the patriot act.
Name me one person who has lost any rights due to the patriot act.

And last but not least.
How have you sufferd because of the patriot act ?

By: Steynianism 87.0 « Free Mark Steyn!

Steynianism 87.0 « Free Mark Steyn! — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:45:47 +0000

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By: blacktygrrrr

blacktygrrrr — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:20:01 +0000

CT,

Regardless of what one may think of Obama, to say he “hates his country” is over the line. There is no evidence of that.

All races have their good and bad apples.

eric

By: Jersey McJones

Jersey McJones — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:44:29 +0000

Micky, you seem not to know the meaning of “rights,” the Patriot Act, or why courts can overturn laws.

You love your big momma government and trust it with your life. I do not.

JMJ

By: CAIR TERRORIS

CAIR TERRORIS — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:38:15 +0000

It is painfully clear that Jersey McJones has never read the Patriot Act and if he has, he doesn’t understand that using filters on overseas phone calls, funding terrorists and sharing info between various law enforcement offices are not things enshrined in the Constitution as proctected. There is no Direct surveillence in the Act without FISA. How is strengthening our ability to detect terrorism a victory for the enemy unless Jersey McJones believes we are the enemy. In the numerous long winded arguments not once did Jersey ever list a right that had been taken away. Sure he made some stuff up about due process, but that isn’t in the act so I am ignoring it.

The silly blogger post referred to at
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=303351

does not address these facts, it spews the same silly ass double speak on rights without addressing the activities employed in the Act, eg a technological filter to find patterns. If such patterns are found a judge must issue the feds a court order to allow them to do actual surveillence. So how does that remove due process from the equation? Answer , it doesn’t

As for the guilt-by-association attack on Obama, I don’t think the issues is guilt-by-association, but rather that Obama hates his country and everything is Whitie’s fault at least that what I got out of the speech and racist Wright’s diattibes. Who wants a dimwit like that as President.

As for hate crimes, all Violent crimes are hate crimes of some sort.

My experience today is that most of the racists in America, are in fact, black people. Blacks have received decades of Democratic handouts and instead of improving their lot like the immigrant groups in America, they remain the largerst per capita committers of violent crime. The proportion of White on Black crime is 1/10 that of Black on White crime. However, somehow none of these are considered hate crimes, why is that? Go to school, quit having children out of wedlock and quit having a victim complex and black people will have no problems. All of my black friends are from foreign countries so they don’t have the victim complex. All also have advanced degrees and earn in excess of $100K so the problem isn’t race it is culture and American Black culture is distructive. None of them thinks the US is a racist country.

By: micky2

micky2 — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:10:49 +0000

Just answer the question jersey, you look like a fool.
Any shmuck cans see you are dodging by trying to make this about something else.
Let me get you up to speed here.

I asked you on March 19, 2008 at 11:42 am
“Find me one person who cant do anything now that they couldnt do pre patriot act.”

I asked you again onMarch 19, 2008 at 12:13 pm
So you say.
Answer my question.

And again onMarch 19, 2008 at 2:14 pm

You just cant answer the question , can you ?
Name me one person who has lost any rights as a result of the patriot act.

One more time on March 19, 2008 at 2:32 pm

Look Jersey, I’m not some idiot.
If anyone had lost any rights due to the patriot act it would be all over the media like white on rice
What rights have we lost ?

And again on March 19, 2008 at 5:39 pm

You still have not answerd the question.
What rigts do I not have today that I did not have previous to the patriot act.
Name me one person who has lost any rights due to the patriot act.

Get it ?

There a re a lot of laws that people percieve as unconstitutional on the books Jersey.
You are entitled to think that.
You are entitled to have the opinion that they diminish your rights.
you are entitled to challenge this view of ineqyuality if you like, some have tried and failed, you know why ?
Because its the law. And now you do not have the same rights you had previous to 911, thats the new law.
And untill the Supreme court of the United states says otherwise, you are blowing nothing but hot air.
I believe its my civil liberty and right to smoke a joint as much as it is to drink a beer.
But the law determined that it is not my right. I do not argue with the law.

Now, answer my question.