Comments on: Copacabana–From Hawaii to Havana http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/02/copacabana-from-hawaii-to-havana/ Drinking the love from her Holy Grail Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:25:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: micky http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/02/copacabana-from-hawaii-to-havana/#comment-5187 micky Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:16:43 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=425#comment-5187 Well, I think the Keating thing is separate from this thin and unsubstantiated sensationlism being driven by the times. The story was ready in Dec, But no one could really make anything definate of it , including the republic rag. It was a race of sorts. If it didnt get published there would of been heat from the left. If it did get published there would be heat from the right. I think the times pacified the left on this one. Just as McCain starts to get a lead, this happens. Things that make you go hmmm. Well, I think the Keating thing is separate from this thin and unsubstantiated sensationlism being driven by the times. The story was ready in Dec, But no one could really make anything definate of it , including the republic rag. It was a race of sorts. If it didnt get published there would of been heat from the left. If it did get published there would be heat from the right.
I think the times pacified the left on this one. Just as McCain starts to get a lead, this happens.
Things that make you go hmmm.

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/02/copacabana-from-hawaii-to-havana/#comment-5188 Jersey McJones Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:22:12 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=425#comment-5188 Yeah, ya' know, I haven't been able to wrap my head around it. Either there was some kind of illicit quid pro quo or there wasn't. I don't understand why they ran the story without having that figured out. I know it was looked into in the past, and no provable qiud pro quo was apparent then. The closest reference we have is the Keating Five scandal. The common take on this was that Keating went to McCain and John Glenn because they were up-and-coming new political stars in the Senate - and American heroes - to use them for the appearance of propriety. Both McCain and Glenn basically admitted to being innocent patsies, but their reputations still carry an understandable tarnish. It was a bipartisan scandal, and so my take has always been that they were all let off a little easy because the scandal involved was bigger than Lincoln S&L, touching so many people that it was quashed: It was a reputational M.A.D. scenario, so no one acted. So, I don't know what to make of this, and I still don't understand why they ran the story without the quid pro quo allegation, or something - anything! - of more substance. I don't care about the sex angle. I just want to know if Mr Clean is really clean. JMJ Yeah, ya’ know, I haven’t been able to wrap my head around it. Either there was some kind of illicit quid pro quo or there wasn’t. I don’t understand why they ran the story without having that figured out.

I know it was looked into in the past, and no provable qiud pro quo was apparent then. The closest reference we have is the Keating Five scandal. The common take on this was that Keating went to McCain and John Glenn because they were up-and-coming new political stars in the Senate - and American heroes - to use them for the appearance of propriety. Both McCain and Glenn basically admitted to being innocent patsies, but their reputations still carry an understandable tarnish. It was a bipartisan scandal, and so my take has always been that they were all let off a little easy because the scandal involved was bigger than Lincoln S&L, touching so many people that it was quashed: It was a reputational M.A.D. scenario, so no one acted.

So, I don’t know what to make of this, and I still don’t understand why they ran the story without the quid pro quo allegation, or something - anything! - of more substance. I don’t care about the sex angle. I just want to know if Mr Clean is really clean.

JMJ

]]> By: micky http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/02/copacabana-from-hawaii-to-havana/#comment-5191 micky Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:11:15 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=425#comment-5191 Its all BS jersey. Its all BS jersey.

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/02/copacabana-from-hawaii-to-havana/#comment-5190 Jersey McJones Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:01:03 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=425#comment-5190 I'm eagerly waiting for Eric to get on this new NYT/McCain story... JMJ I’m eagerly waiting for Eric to get on this new NYT/McCain story…

JMJ

]]> By: deaconblue http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/02/copacabana-from-hawaii-to-havana/#comment-5192 deaconblue Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:48:12 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=425#comment-5192 So, much like their candidates, no clear resolution then. What was Tip O'Niell's adage? All politics is local politics? Someone should do a YouTube video where they boil down the entire Obama-Clinton race into this fist fight. Was it at least an entertaining fight? So, much like their candidates, no clear resolution then. What was Tip O’Niell’s adage? All politics is local politics?

Someone should do a YouTube video where they boil down the entire Obama-Clinton race into this fist fight.

Was it at least an entertaining fight?

]]> By: micky http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/02/copacabana-from-hawaii-to-havana/#comment-5194 micky Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:10:21 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=425#comment-5194 Deacon. they both got locked up. Deacon.
they both got locked up.

]]> By: Bald-Headed Geek http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/02/copacabana-from-hawaii-to-havana/#comment-5193 Bald-Headed Geek Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:00:31 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=425#comment-5193 ROTFLMAO! That was priceless. :-) BHG ROTFLMAO! That was priceless.
:-)
BHG

]]> By: micky http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/02/copacabana-from-hawaii-to-havana/#comment-5195 micky Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:02:14 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=425#comment-5195 Whats really funny ( maybe scary) is that around 9:30 pm Hawaii time I looked at my screen and it showed the results at 10% of precincts in. It said Hillary 666 Obama 2538 Whats really funny ( maybe scary) is that around 9:30 pm Hawaii time I looked at my screen and it showed the results at 10% of precincts in.
It said Hillary 666
Obama 2538

]]> By: deaconblue http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/02/copacabana-from-hawaii-to-havana/#comment-5198 deaconblue Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:59:06 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=425#comment-5198 Ahhh, I see. It was a "heated discussion" about hope versus change. So who won? And will there be a rematch? Vegas odds? Ahhh, I see. It was a “heated discussion” about hope versus change. So who won? And will there be a rematch? Vegas odds?

]]> By: micky http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/02/copacabana-from-hawaii-to-havana/#comment-5197 micky Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:56:12 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/?p=425#comment-5197 Its O.K. deacon. It was for the greater good. Its O.K. deacon.
It was for the greater good.

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