Comments on: Abolish the Iowa Caucuses http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/01/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/ Drinking the love from her Holy Grail Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:27:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: AL http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/01/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3780 AL Tue, 08 Jan 2008 23:58:36 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3780 As a former enlisted man in '72 and currently an officer< I have to back up Micky2, even though his facts already speak volumes. Many of the draftees did not have high school education, and it was not considered "honorable" to serve, so many middle and upper class did not join. Many got deferments. Level of training today is phenomenal compared to then. It's no longer, "low crawl, shoot, follow the leader"... Soldiers at all levels have to learn diplomacy, negotiation skills, sophisticated technology (radioes, GPS, night vision devices, scopes, blue force tracker, et al), and any number of skills we didn't even dream of years ago. I am scared about what this nation is becoming. We've always had yellow journalism, but we are succumbing to demogoguery - don't confuse me with facts because I "feel" or "believe" this way or that. If you are "right" you are wrong, and if you are "left" you are stupid. Not always the case. President Bush has done an exceptional job identifying our second greatest threat and declaring war against terrorists. He has done a terrible job with information operations. Our greatest threat is from within. Dialogue and negotiation can go a long way. These same things are now being used in Iraq, and it's working. OK, not perfectly, but better than kicking in doors and alienating everyone, as these posts seem to do - it would be nice to concede a point now and again - that may give bargaining power later and let's people know we aren't completely brain dead.. As a former enlisted man in ‘72 and currently an officer< I have to back up Micky2, even though his facts already speak volumes. Many of the draftees did not have high school education, and it was not considered “honorable” to serve, so many middle and upper class did not join. Many got deferments. Level of training today is phenomenal compared to then. It’s no longer, “low crawl, shoot, follow the leader”… Soldiers at all levels have to learn diplomacy, negotiation skills, sophisticated technology (radioes, GPS, night vision devices, scopes, blue force tracker, et al), and any number of skills we didn’t even dream of years ago. I am scared about what this nation is becoming. We’ve always had yellow journalism, but we are succumbing to demogoguery - don’t confuse me with facts because I “feel” or “believe” this way or that. If you are “right” you are wrong, and if you are “left” you are stupid. Not always the case. President Bush has done an exceptional job identifying our second greatest threat and declaring war against terrorists. He has done a terrible job with information operations. Our greatest threat is from within. Dialogue and negotiation can go a long way. These same things are now being used in Iraq, and it’s working. OK, not perfectly, but better than kicking in doors and alienating everyone, as these posts seem to do - it would be nice to concede a point now and again - that may give bargaining power later and let’s people know we aren’t completely brain dead..

]]> By: micky2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/01/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3742 micky2 Sat, 05 Jan 2008 22:10:46 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3742 Its not luck Jersey. You obviously had your head somewhere when Kerry opened his yap and within hours the stats that prove you to be just plain mean went all over the airwaves and hit every talk show and news cast there was. You have one pee ass little source that comes from one of the most liberal citys in America. And has spawned one of the most liberal rags in the country. Thay is the rag you take your info from and ask everyone to believe it. At least my sources come not only from the military itself but many, many others as you so efficiently failed to notice. Once again, all you got is bla bla bla and nothing to back it up. You are in some serious need of luck when all your points can never be verified or proven. Its not luck Jersey. You obviously had your head somewhere when Kerry opened his yap and within hours the stats that prove you to be just plain mean went all over the airwaves and hit every talk show and news cast there was.
You have one pee ass little source that comes from one of the most liberal citys in America. And has spawned one of the most liberal rags in the country.
Thay is the rag you take your info from and ask everyone to believe it.
At least my sources come not only from the military itself but many, many others as you so efficiently failed to notice.
Once again, all you got is bla bla bla and nothing to back it up.
You are in some serious need of luck when all your points can never be verified or proven.

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/01/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3776 Jersey McJones Sat, 05 Jan 2008 01:22:52 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3776 Chris, you summed it up. Micky, good luck with that sort of rhetoric. JMJ Chris, you summed it up.

Micky, good luck with that sort of rhetoric.

JMJ

]]> By: chris naron http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/01/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3777 chris naron Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:14:41 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3777 Jersey, Read my post again. It makes perfect sense. Republicans win by making the Democrats move to the right, which for them would mean towards the middle. If the Democrat takes the other approach, moving further to the left, he or she positions herself as an ultra-liberal. It's pretty simple. Jersey,

Read my post again. It makes perfect sense. Republicans win by making the Democrats move to the right, which for them would mean towards the middle. If the Democrat takes the other approach, moving further to the left, he or she positions herself as an ultra-liberal. It’s pretty simple.

]]> By: micky2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/01/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3778 micky2 Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:59:01 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3778 I'm getting close to squeeling on you Jersey. Sometimes you sound like an Al Queda plant. I’m getting close to squeeling on you Jersey. Sometimes you sound like an Al Queda plant.

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/01/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3779 Jersey McJones Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:50:20 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3779 Micky, really, I get it, the HUAC didn't personally do the blacklisting. Really, I get it. I'm quite well read on the subject. But if you think Reagan was right to name Hollywood names - his friends and collegues as it were - because they may have had certain political beliefs, knowing what Jack Warner et al would do once those names came out, then I think you are about as UnAmerican a person as I have ever known. What Reagn did was despicable and anyone who thinks otherwise... well, I'll just leave it at that. JMJ Micky, really, I get it, the HUAC didn’t personally do the blacklisting. Really, I get it. I’m quite well read on the subject. But if you think Reagan was right to name Hollywood names - his friends and collegues as it were - because they may have had certain political beliefs, knowing what Jack Warner et al would do once those names came out, then I think you are about as UnAmerican a person as I have ever known. What Reagn did was despicable and anyone who thinks otherwise… well, I’ll just leave it at that.

JMJ

]]> By: micky2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/01/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3757 micky2 Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:13:56 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3757 Its not about authority at all. In the middle 40s we had a large paranoia floating around, and it was a just paranoia because commies were attacking everywhere in europe and we at home were suspicious of commie propoganda and indoctrination being placed through hollywood. So you had the huac investigate and "unfriendly " witnesses as they were called (nixon, reagan, etc..) brought fourth names of those they suspected were trying to corrupt our country. The huac never blacklisted anyone. It was the producers and magnates who did the blacklisting. But you see, in those days the threat was real and gave viable concern since this enemy had actually already killed millions. Unlike the prefabricated "Gerbil Warming" scare we see today. Its not about authority at all.
In the middle 40s we had a large paranoia floating around, and it was a just paranoia because commies were attacking everywhere in europe and we at home were suspicious of commie propoganda and indoctrination being placed through hollywood.
So you had the huac investigate and “unfriendly ” witnesses as they were called (nixon, reagan, etc..) brought fourth names of those they suspected were trying to corrupt our country. The huac never blacklisted anyone. It was the producers and magnates who did the blacklisting.
But you see, in those days the threat was real and gave viable concern since this enemy had actually already killed millions.
Unlike the prefabricated “Gerbil Warming” scare we see today.

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/01/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3756 Jersey McJones Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:27:53 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3756 That's disturbing. I knew you were a bit of an authoritarian, but now... I don't know what to believe. I can only hope that you just have no clue what I'm talking about. JMJ That’s disturbing. I knew you were a bit of an authoritarian, but now… I don’t know what to believe. I can only hope that you just have no clue what I’m talking about.

JMJ

]]> By: micky2 http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/01/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3744 micky2 Fri, 04 Jan 2008 02:01:13 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3744 I hope you realize that HUAC itself did not blacklist people. And if you must know, yea I think weeding out commies was a good thing. But hey ! Clinton didnt inhale ! We all make mistakes I hope you realize that HUAC itself did not blacklist people.

And if you must know, yea I think weeding out commies was a good thing.
But hey ! Clinton didnt inhale ! We all make mistakes

]]> By: Jersey McJones http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/01/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3745 Jersey McJones Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:29:18 +0000 http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/abolish-the-iowa-caucuses/#comment-3745 Do you think that HUAC blacklisting was a good thing, Micky? JMJ Do you think that HUAC blacklisting was a good thing, Micky?

JMJ

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