I mean, “Bush proposed privatization of the SS program because he saw this happenening before he took office. This problem is not his fault. We can put that one on the administrations previous to Kennedy. ( you know baby boomers ?)”

The looting of SS didn’t begin until the late seventies.

Ron Paul is a “fruitcake,” “future wars” as opposed to the future cost of this one, what tax money goes where when it’s all in general fund - you either said things that were just outrageous, wrong, or just moot. I don’t know how to respond to these things.

I’ll keep debating with you, but let’s move on to the next topic. Eric has a great new post on Ahmedinejad. I disagree with him, but he certainly put the conservative perspective in focus.

Gunny, what are you talking about? What one Earth did Vince, Ron and Rwanda have to do with corruption on the part of Clinton? Yeah, Rwanda was a mess, but what would you conservatives have had us do? As for Ron and Vince, crazy conspiracy theories are not for me.

And you shouldn’t morally equivicate because when you do you’re just arguing against yourself. And if you still chose that route, the fact is that a few hundred thousand dollars in corruption (Whitewater, “The Fridge” Jefferson, “The Stamp” Rostenkowski, for examples) pale in comparison to Abramoff and the Duke, let alone billions in no-contracts given by conflicted interests in the White House. No corruption is acceptable, but some things are certainly worse than others. It’s one thing to steal a candy bar, it’s another thing to steal a whole store.

JMJ

“The Dems crimes are childishlessly petty in comparison!”

I wonder if Vince Foster, Ron Brown, and 1,000,000 Rwandans would agree with you. For America’s “first black POTUS”, Bubba sure dropped the ball there.

BTW, thanks for confirming what I already knew. That scandals, as long as they are Dhimmicratic in origin are okay. I wonder if KKK Byrd stil owns a few pillowcases in white?

By the way. Your arrogance has never been more apparent than when you claim that I am ” officially out matched”

So now you are the officiall huh ?

The Clintons scandals are silly ? That might be true if there werent so many.

And yes, I am truly an educated man , which is all the more reason for your quitting

Micky, you missed my points on so many levels, I’m just going to have to give up on this one. I don’t even know where to begin.

JMJ

Gunny, you have to learn the difference between “attack” and “critique.” We on the Left are getting very tired of the incessant failures and corruption of the Right in power. We are simply telling you that.

Incessant failures and corruptions of the Right?

1. Evidently, you failed to read my blog where I posted CRIDBLE LINKS to ALL of Bubba’s and HIllary’s various scandals.

Those are CREDIBLE links Jersey, not what I “feel.”

2. The LEFT never said a PEEP out of the recent Dianen Feinstein scandals wherein she directed military contracts from her committee MILCON to her HUSBAND’s COMPANIES.

BTW, I blogged that was one of the first ones to get it hot off the presses.

3. Red Nanny P-LOUSY yamemred about cleaning up Congress and then goes on to ignore William “Freezermoney” Jefferson little issue. She NEARLY appoints an IMPEACHED ex-Fed judge by the name of Alcee Hastings (Progressive Caucus) to head the Nat Intel Cmte! Then, after the crap hits the fan, she appoints Reyes. Check my blog for HIS bio.

You see Jersey, we DO critique the Left as we critique the Right. The difference IS, our racists like Duke get booted, your party called their racist an “elder statesman.” We on the Right SLAMMERIZE our bums like Cunningham, you “censure” yours (Torricelli) or simply ignore it (Jefferson).

I could go on and on.

BTW:

“If you’re truly an educated man, then you know I’m telling the truth.

That’s an appeal to flattery. Just another of your many fallacies.

Micky, you are officially outmatched. Try again tomorrow, when your head is fresh.

JMJ”

Just cause you say something jersey, doesnt make it true, okaaaaaaaaay.

Show me my misquotes.
HA! you get shot down and all of a sudden its OH! you misquoted, you misunderstood.

I look back on all the threads and you do this to everyone! You start accusing them of misquoting and not understanding.
I’ve read all these threads today, and its absolutly true !
What a joke.

The sites you use will back up your suspicions because that is most likely where you got your talking points from.

Ron Paul is defined by most as a libertarian, left of the right.
Whatever the case, hes an idiot who blames his country for the war and radical islamists actions. This fruitcake almost threw a hissy fit at the last debate.
He seriously lacks composure. I dont want him anywhere near the big red button. YIKES!

AND ONCE AGAIN, KNOCK IT OFF !! I DID NOT DISCOUNT THE CHRISTIAN SCIENCE MONITOR !
AS A MATTER OF FAT IF YOU READ IT CORRECTLY I SAID THAT THEY MAKE MY POINT FOR ME !

You just cant win JMJ , only because your positions are always based on opinions and when you cant win with that you mis construe and put words in my mouth.

You lost this one.
You cant prove something that hasnt happened yet. And you have weaseled your way out of every question by playing word games and semantics.
On this other post which for some reason you wont approach anymore , I made this abundanly clear.
http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2007/09/17/to-moveonorg-with-luv-osama/#comments
Your whole platform is based on hate and contempt.
You never really get to see the other side of me or quite a few other opponents because you only give them subject to expose one side of themselves.

We dont only attack !
But all the things you say leave us no choice

I blog at alot of liberal websites, and I can confidently say that you do not represent the mainstream liberlals.
WE debate, come to conclusions on the REAL fault at hand and then approach solutions.
This is impossible to do with you.

Micky, you are officially outmatched. Try again tomorrow, when your head is fresh.

JMJ

Bush proposed privatization of the SS program because he saw this happenening before he took office. This problem is not his fault. We can put that one on the administrations previous to Kennedy. ( you know baby boomers ?)

You quoted;
“It’s fair to say all of the money spent on the war has been borrowed,” says Richard Kogan, a senior fellow at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a think tank in Washington. “But eventually everything has to be paid for. …”

A think tank ? ( I have one of those)
“But eventually everything has to be paid for” ( is this guy the genius in this think tank?)

You quoted Ron Paul;
“A decade in Iraq easily could cost American taxpayers one trillion dollars and cause endless budget deficits.” - Ron Paul back in 2003″

Once again, so what ? What would you expect anyone to say ? War cost money!
( But notice he says “could”) theres that speculation again.

You said;
The closet thing I could find to your tax/spend military stat is one narrowly focused on net federal income tax revenue alone - that is; no FICA or any other kind of tax, and you have to add FUTURE spending to that to get the figure…

This doesnt change the fact that I am right. You said it wasnt even true.
Well the numbers dont lie because they are drawn on proof positive historical records.
2005 thru 2007.
Your numbers are a guessing game.

You quoted;
“In Michigan and around the United States, nearly 40 cents on every dollar goes to pay for future and past military expenses, while social spending on issues such as education, housing, and nutrition receive pennies.”

So if 40 cents out of every dollar goes to future wars, we must be able to afford this one, right ? the last three issues are not threats to human life.
AROUND the united states ? what the hell is that supposed to mean ?
Here and there ? LOL