But then, now that I think about it, even if you did apologize, I doubt you would actually mean it.

Thats kind of sad.

GHW Bush was a credible warrior if not a war hero, an athlete-scholar at Yale, a successful businessman, held a very impressive succession of posts prior to being President. He was a good President.

Have I got a good come-back for when I address the Republican National Convention next year!

See, Richards was the big thing back then, being elected in 1990–before Hillary Clinton’s husband drug her into the national spotlight. And being an already elected Governor of the 2nd most populous state in the union, she was a truly honest-to-goodness candidate to join Vice President Gore on the ticket in 2000.

And had she been re-elected, I have no doubt in my mind that the following would have occurred: GW would have gone on managing his business interests, Gore would have been elected, Richards would have been his VEEP, and John Kerry would simply be remembered as the junior Senator from the People’s Republic of Massachussets.

Throws a little cog in the works, you know? Unfortunately, Texans can tell when someone is good for the economy and a Party matches the general moral and/or economic environment of our state. I keep waiting for others in your fair state, that of my birth, to recognize the same.

And how are your Senators, by the way???

“Being confused with facts” is an oxymoron.
Your facts work only with a very small minority.
My facts work with a majority of sane people. We even set up our legal system that way.

You also said;
‘If assasination was the only issue that concerned you, you should have limited yourself to that. Your other contentions did not hold up but you do not want to admit it.”

You just cant read , can you ?
One more time… and restudy the english languge this time, please.
I CAME TO THIS DEBATE WITH ONLY ONE ISSUE, that was assasination, got it ?
But “YOU” brought up the other issues, and here’s how you did when bringing them up.
You are wrong on Obama, and right now almost everyone is questioning his judgement, even far left nutjobs.
I straightened you out on the presidents drinking problem which you felt made some kind of point. {Did you get where you are at on your own merits ? Or has any man for that matter ?}
And you have not answerd to the three + acts of war Saddam exercised against our country.
And you most certainly have not retracted your statement or feelings on the assasination issue.
That is my biggest and problem and has been , all you need to do is scroll up to the top and take a look.
But as it seems from your last post you bailed because you are too weak to answer the one most important question I have.
If you have no plausable answer from this point I can only “CONCLUDE” my characterization of you

Cheney outright insisted that Iraq was involved in 9/11. Bush mostly keep mentioning 9/11 and Iraq in the same breath deliberately giving Americans the impression that Iraq had something to do with 9/11. Americans were infuriated over 9/11 and Bush/Cheney et al directed that anger to Iraq. It was a classic case of “Bait and Switch”

I won’t deny that I question the motivations for the war. That said, we’re there, and to cut and run would be a monumental mistake. Bush needs to pressure the Iraqi government to stop the partisan infighting (like our own congress needs to do). I don’t believe Saddam was directly connected to 9/11. I do not, however, rule out the possibility that he may have indirectly supported it in some way. There’s not proof either way and I’m not going to argue about it.

2. You tell me what links Saddam to 9/11 and I will tell you what linked Rumsfeld and Cheney to 9/11.

Do you purposely avoid bin Laden?

3. Just because you accepted the lies of Bush/Cheney that Saddam was such a danger does not make it true. When Saddam tried to invade and occupy Kuwait, the world, including Arabs , rose up as one to defeat him in short order, deciimating his army in the process. He had no allies; everyone was against him. Do you think he was going to try that again, much less threaten the USA which spent more on military than the next 12 contries COMBINED? Get real!

Yes I do think he was going to eventually try it again. He believed it was his destiny to rule the Middle East. He was mentally unstable. You think of him as a rational person when he was anything but. He would have tried again simply because his ego would have driven him to do it.

4. (see #3) Why would there be a war? Only if we started it.

See answer to #3

5. Bush sending the troops on a fool’s mission is not my idea of supporting the troops. It was Bush’s idea to invade Iraq . He did not take into consideration the consequences of removing the relative stability that Saddam imposed. or the problems of getting iraq on its feet.

You’re right. The plan for going in and taking out Saddam was great. The plan for how to deal with Iraq afterwards absolutely sucked. Sometimes I wonder if they even had a plan. It’s almost like they thought once they took out Saddam they could just say “Ok folks, it’s all yours, have fun” and go home.

1. I was a commissioned line officer in the Naval Reserve. I have experience as an officer onboard ships at sea. I have an MBA and I have been department head in hospitals and CEO of a corporation. I have made life and death decisions for decades as a physician.

I was a Navy avionics technician. My son is currently serving in the Navy. I have some college and work in industrial maintenance. I am proud to have served and am just as proud of my son. My apologies for the remark.

Nothing personal, but my father worked in maintenance at a local university for years. I saw many people who were absolutely brilliant at what they studied, but who didn’t have enough common sense to come in out of the rain. Not saying that’s the case with you. Just saying that having a college degree has never impressed me much unless you have the basic skills needed to get along in society to go along with it.

2. I am neither a Liberal nor a Conservative. Over the years , I have voted for slightly more Republicans than Democrats.

I have voted much more for republicans. I have on occasion voted for democrats, but only moderate or conservative democrats, who are getting harder and harder to find nowadays.

3. I got a varsity letter in wrestling (156 lb class) as a junior in high school. No one ever picked on me in high school.

I didn’t get picked on either. I lettered in the 145 pound class.

Not only do you unconditionally accept the lies of our White House, but you make statements about things of which you have no actual knowledge. Hmmm do you realize what you have been saying?

Yes I do. I admit I’ve been trying in some cases to see how far I could go. This is especially true with the conclusions I made about you in my last post. And since you addressed those, I now know a bit more about you and understand a bit more where you’re coming from. We’re probably not that far apart philosophically, but I do think I’m more conservative in my beliefs than you are. Not that I’m more right or wrong, we just disagree on some issues. But we do agree on some, and that’s common ground. And for reasonable people that’s all you need to come to an understanding.