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		<title>By: micky2</title>
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		<dc:creator>micky2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adolecent and deaf to start</description>
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		<title>By: jersey McJones</title>
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		<dc:creator>jersey McJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Micky, relax.  Kicking ass is not very Christian.  I made the "victim" remark in reply to Carole's "It is difficult to take a person seriously when one feels constantly belittled by that person."  I did not intend to belittle her, but yet, usual and in typical Christioan fashion, she took offense to something I said, just as you are hear.  Again, "you Christians have this deep need to be feel victimized all the time."  That's why that stupid "Passion of the Christ" movie was so popular.  The funny thing is, of course, Christians pretty much rule the world as of now, so that victim mantality is a bit farsically forced.

You said, "You said a whole bunch of uncalled for crap, to a lot of people who didnt deserve it."  Do you have an example of this, or are you just another Christian "victim."

JMJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micky, relax.  Kicking ass is not very Christian.  I made the &#8220;victim&#8221; remark in reply to Carole&#8217;s &#8220;It is difficult to take a person seriously when one feels constantly belittled by that person.&#8221;  I did not intend to belittle her, but yet, usual and in typical Christioan fashion, she took offense to something I said, just as you are hear.  Again, &#8220;you Christians have this deep need to be feel victimized all the time.&#8221;  That&#8217;s why that stupid &#8220;Passion of the Christ&#8221; movie was so popular.  The funny thing is, of course, Christians pretty much rule the world as of now, so that victim mantality is a bit farsically forced.</p>
<p>You said, &#8220;You said a whole bunch of uncalled for crap, to a lot of people who didnt deserve it.&#8221;  Do you have an example of this, or are you just another Christian &#8220;victim.&#8221;</p>
<p>JMJ</p>
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		<title>By: micky2</title>
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		<dc:creator>micky2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reaan was the nail in the coffin, it ended with Reagan.

JMJ said;
"Micky, all I was saying was that all this vitriol at Hillary Clinton is misplaced."

No, quite the contrary. You said a whole bunch of uncalled for crap, to a lot of people who didnt deserve it.
JMJ said;
 "I know you Christians have this deep need to be feel victimized all the time, "

I mean... what the hell dude !  Was that smart ass remark even neccessary ?

I'm a christian, but not like any you've ever met. I'll kick  ass before I become a victim of anything, especially snotty liberals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reaan was the nail in the coffin, it ended with Reagan.</p>
<p>JMJ said;<br />
&#8220;Micky, all I was saying was that all this vitriol at Hillary Clinton is misplaced.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, quite the contrary. You said a whole bunch of uncalled for crap, to a lot of people who didnt deserve it.<br />
JMJ said;<br />
 &#8220;I know you Christians have this deep need to be feel victimized all the time, &#8221;</p>
<p>I mean&#8230; what the hell dude !  Was that smart ass remark even neccessary ?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a christian, but not like any you&#8217;ve ever met. I&#8217;ll kick  ass before I become a victim of anything, especially snotty liberals.</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey McJones</title>
		<link>http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2007/08/hill-and-bill-narcissistic-spoiled-brats/#comment-1192</link>
		<dc:creator>Jersey McJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point about Reagan, Joe.  He no more "defeated" the Soviet Union than any of his predecessors and countless other players.  Heck, Gorbechev could be said to have done it more than anyone!

JMJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point about Reagan, Joe.  He no more &#8220;defeated&#8221; the Soviet Union than any of his predecessors and countless other players.  Heck, Gorbechev could be said to have done it more than anyone!</p>
<p>JMJ</p>
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		<title>By: Smokin Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smokin Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that I've gone through everyone completely - I have to say, both sides bring up decent points.

I do have to agree with JMJ in his point where Hillary does bring about a lot of unnecessary and misdirected animosity, whether it is because she's a woman, because people might mis-interpret her ideas, or because of her last name.

This is NOT to be confused with those who disagree with her on a Political basis, or perhaps have some sort of animosity caused by her Healthcare reform, or any other reason that is originally based on programs/ideas that involve Hillary.

And I was thinking - while it is fair to say Reagan hastened the Demise of the Soviet Union, by the same token, JFK would have played an almost equally significant role (as far as the United States was concerned) by motivating our Space Program, which I would have to imagine really started to bankrupt the USSR.

I mean, there are tons of reasons and events that slowly led to the Communist Nation's demise - I mean, Pope John Paul II was Polish!  Probably one of the greatest moves by the Vatican (that I can think of...) was to choose a Pope from a Communist country.  I dunno why I mention the story, but seemed like it might pertain to the argument.

I liked this post and resulting debate because I'm an Obamaman (as you mightve guessed).  Carry on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that I&#8217;ve gone through everyone completely - I have to say, both sides bring up decent points.</p>
<p>I do have to agree with JMJ in his point where Hillary does bring about a lot of unnecessary and misdirected animosity, whether it is because she&#8217;s a woman, because people might mis-interpret her ideas, or because of her last name.</p>
<p>This is NOT to be confused with those who disagree with her on a Political basis, or perhaps have some sort of animosity caused by her Healthcare reform, or any other reason that is originally based on programs/ideas that involve Hillary.</p>
<p>And I was thinking - while it is fair to say Reagan hastened the Demise of the Soviet Union, by the same token, JFK would have played an almost equally significant role (as far as the United States was concerned) by motivating our Space Program, which I would have to imagine really started to bankrupt the USSR.</p>
<p>I mean, there are tons of reasons and events that slowly led to the Communist Nation&#8217;s demise - I mean, Pope John Paul II was Polish!  Probably one of the greatest moves by the Vatican (that I can think of&#8230;) was to choose a Pope from a Communist country.  I dunno why I mention the story, but seemed like it might pertain to the argument.</p>
<p>I liked this post and resulting debate because I&#8217;m an Obamaman (as you mightve guessed).  Carry on.</p>
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		<title>By: Smokin Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smokin Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*cough* Go Obama *cough* *cough*

And good back-and-forth too.

Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*cough* Go Obama *cough* *cough*</p>
<p>And good back-and-forth too.</p>
<p>Joe</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey McJones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jersey McJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arclightzero, look, you're certainly not alone.  Hillary puts a lot of people off.  Some say she's "shrill," some say she's a "used car salesman."  Even my wife doesn't like her.  She says Hillary "just comes off wrong."  Whatever.  It's one thing to find someone a little off-putting.  I never liked Bill.  But in the end, he made a pretty good president.  Nothing great.  Nothing new.  But pretty good.  I would imagine Hillary would be much the same.  As for "prototypical baby boomer" - what I mean is that Hillary's positions are well within the mainstream of that generation.

Carole, relax.  I'm not attacking you.  I know you Christians have this deep need to be feel victimized all the time, but really, I am not victimizing you.  I just don't care enough to do that.

JMJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arclightzero, look, you&#8217;re certainly not alone.  Hillary puts a lot of people off.  Some say she&#8217;s &#8220;shrill,&#8221; some say she&#8217;s a &#8220;used car salesman.&#8221;  Even my wife doesn&#8217;t like her.  She says Hillary &#8220;just comes off wrong.&#8221;  Whatever.  It&#8217;s one thing to find someone a little off-putting.  I never liked Bill.  But in the end, he made a pretty good president.  Nothing great.  Nothing new.  But pretty good.  I would imagine Hillary would be much the same.  As for &#8220;prototypical baby boomer&#8221; - what I mean is that Hillary&#8217;s positions are well within the mainstream of that generation.</p>
<p>Carole, relax.  I&#8217;m not attacking you.  I know you Christians have this deep need to be feel victimized all the time, but really, I am not victimizing you.  I just don&#8217;t care enough to do that.</p>
<p>JMJ</p>
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		<title>By: Carole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McJones....whoever you are. It is difficult to take a person seriously when one feels constantly belittled by that person. I've kinda been trying to be humorous to get my point accross...but you insist on judging me, and others. Forgive me, but I'm tired of it. Gloves off.

If you want debate, then debate. If you're going to personally attack, don't expect debate, or for that matter, respect. There are too many bigots in this world, and sadly, you are one of them. All over your comments, you make snap judgements about people to discount their points, or to blast them out of the water. It may be news to you that there are many different VALID ways of dealing with the reality of this world. It is not OUR job to be the Holy Spirit and judge one's way as right or wrong. We CAN decide for ourselves whether we can respect and use that way or not. The problem with bigots is they think THEIR way is the ONLY way. Thus, we have race problems, class envy promoters , political partisanship and the arrogant elite. All of it is based on ignorance.

 You sir have no idea who I am, nor what I have had to deal with in this world, nor what I have had to overcome to survive. In short, you are too ignorant to judge me. I shudder to think that you interact with the world with your own simplistic - in this case, used as naive -  view of people based on your own bigotry. Kindly do NOT lecture me on naive.

I have always been inspired by the passage in the new testament about the body, and how no one part of the body is better than the other. The writer was talking to a 'body' of believers in which there was much unrest about the worth of each's function. His answer was to compare the people to the human body. It takes the different functions of each part of the body for the whole to function properly. It is this idea that inspires me to ASPIRE to value people for their differences. It helps me. Might help you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McJones&#8230;.whoever you are. It is difficult to take a person seriously when one feels constantly belittled by that person. I&#8217;ve kinda been trying to be humorous to get my point accross&#8230;but you insist on judging me, and others. Forgive me, but I&#8217;m tired of it. Gloves off.</p>
<p>If you want debate, then debate. If you&#8217;re going to personally attack, don&#8217;t expect debate, or for that matter, respect. There are too many bigots in this world, and sadly, you are one of them. All over your comments, you make snap judgements about people to discount their points, or to blast them out of the water. It may be news to you that there are many different VALID ways of dealing with the reality of this world. It is not OUR job to be the Holy Spirit and judge one&#8217;s way as right or wrong. We CAN decide for ourselves whether we can respect and use that way or not. The problem with bigots is they think THEIR way is the ONLY way. Thus, we have race problems, class envy promoters , political partisanship and the arrogant elite. All of it is based on ignorance.</p>
<p> You sir have no idea who I am, nor what I have had to deal with in this world, nor what I have had to overcome to survive. In short, you are too ignorant to judge me. I shudder to think that you interact with the world with your own simplistic - in this case, used as naive -  view of people based on your own bigotry. Kindly do NOT lecture me on naive.</p>
<p>I have always been inspired by the passage in the new testament about the body, and how no one part of the body is better than the other. The writer was talking to a &#8216;body&#8217; of believers in which there was much unrest about the worth of each&#8217;s function. His answer was to compare the people to the human body. It takes the different functions of each part of the body for the whole to function properly. It is this idea that inspires me to ASPIRE to value people for their differences. It helps me. Might help you.</p>
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		<title>By: arclightzero</title>
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		<dc:creator>arclightzero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, of course I don't know Hillary. If I had the chance to sit down with her over a cup if jo, maybe I'd have a different opinion of her. But I doubt it. You can learn a lot about somebody by watching their interactions with others. You can watch their face, their gestures, their words... Listen carefully when she speaks, and watch her as she does it. Better yet, watch her when she's supposed to be listening. She could rival Ted Kennedy for being an overtly bad listener.

I don't know what you're trying to get across by continuing to say that she is a "proto-typical baby boomer democrat." There is nothing typical about her. As I said, this isn't a political issue. She could be a conservative and I would still feel the same way about her. If she's a different person in private, I would think it would be wise of her to sow that face to the country, because the persona she is putting out there right now incites a whole lot of bad feelings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, of course I don&#8217;t know Hillary. If I had the chance to sit down with her over a cup if jo, maybe I&#8217;d have a different opinion of her. But I doubt it. You can learn a lot about somebody by watching their interactions with others. You can watch their face, their gestures, their words&#8230; Listen carefully when she speaks, and watch her as she does it. Better yet, watch her when she&#8217;s supposed to be listening. She could rival Ted Kennedy for being an overtly bad listener.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re trying to get across by continuing to say that she is a &#8220;proto-typical baby boomer democrat.&#8221; There is nothing typical about her. As I said, this isn&#8217;t a political issue. She could be a conservative and I would still feel the same way about her. If she&#8217;s a different person in private, I would think it would be wise of her to sow that face to the country, because the persona she is putting out there right now incites a whole lot of bad feelings.</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey McJones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jersey McJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arclightzero, I seriously doubt you know enough about Hillary Clinton to make such a judgement about her character.  She seems alright, I suppose.  But I don't know her either.  As I said, and for the third time in this thread, she's a proto-typical Baby Boomer Democrat.  Whatever.

Carole, there's nothing wrong with making a simple point.  There's something terribly naive about boiling everything down that way.

JMJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arclightzero, I seriously doubt you know enough about Hillary Clinton to make such a judgement about her character.  She seems alright, I suppose.  But I don&#8217;t know her either.  As I said, and for the third time in this thread, she&#8217;s a proto-typical Baby Boomer Democrat.  Whatever.</p>
<p>Carole, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with making a simple point.  There&#8217;s something terribly naive about boiling everything down that way.</p>
<p>JMJ</p>
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