“As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.” – George Washington

Take it easy, you guys, we all gotta live here. (But you f#@kin’ ditto-heads gotta sit down in front - you’ve helped siphon off the nation’s capital into these pinhead military ventures long enough.)

I think I wanted it to be more like:

Reagan and his Conservative Republican cronies supported Poverty by using fear to make Static, the Status Quo.

Reagan and his Conservative Republican cronies supported Poverty by using fear to make to turn Static the Status Quo.

I think that’s just as ignorantly general, but better worded (in my opinion).

1. A Liberal’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.

2. Liberals fought poverty and poverty won.

So the concept of a Free Internet now? It isn’t Liberal or Conservative, it is one of the brilliant ideas of Google (and Bill Gates, but I don’t think I know his system as much as Google’s) to offer Free Internet for the price of its super smart AD placement.

You receive intelligently placed ads that would probably result in better business for the Advertisers, which results in the cashflow required to maintain a Free Internet Infrastructure. Liberal idea? Conservative idea? Nah, it’s the Free Market at work.

Unfortunately, while Liberals and Conservative both have morals and ethics that guide them throughout life, the Free Market is ruthless and contains to right or wrong - it is more about the bottom line, regardless of what it takes to get there. One of the most eye-opening ads I’ve seen, that really showed me that those Marketeers really know what they are doing was a full page ad for Product(red):

They admitted that it isn’t a charity, it is a Business Plan, profits are made, but a portion of the revenue does go directly to helping those in Africa - so it’s basically a great Business Plan that creates a Profit for a company by taking advantage of people’s willingness to help. Eventually it’ll be a fad and people won’t care where the money goes, but it’s a great idea to translate our lust for toys into helping those who need it.

And Malcor, I love your little history blurb on the Internet, I’m sure you know it’s 100% accurate so I won’t tell you it is. Oh wait, I just did. I personally started laughing when you explained the difference between ARPANET, what CERN did, and how WWW doesn’t mean “The Internet.” Intelligent Right wingers are always favorable to me than idiotic-narrow minded Lefties. And vice versa.

You pwned TPL. And I mean you pwned him gooood.

(sorry for another double post)

And if anything, the thing that REALLY pisses me off about some Liberals - is the Political Correctness that has come into our culture nowadays. I’m not really sure who the fault lies on, but frankly, the Special-Interest groups have WAY too much power to ruin people’s reputations than they should. It really pisses me off how handcuffed some people are in expressing their true opinions because an Interest group may go off and boom - career over.

While the ACLU and NAACP were great achievements to counter Conservative/Traditional ideas and themes - now all they do is magnify the smallest of injustices to ‘prove’ their worthiness. As horrible as it is to say, the same Organizations and People who fought SO hard for Women’s rights, and Black/Minority Rights - are going to keep racism and sexism alive forever, for the groups cannot exist without them.

Hrm, maybe I don’t know the true definition of a Liberal/Conservative person from a Liberal/Conservative idea or plan. But I always thought of my previously mentioned topics as mostly Liberal in nature. Either way - they suck and really piss me off.

And following the Internet silliness of it being a great Liberal discovery - I feel silly for throwing the space program under the Liberal Umbrella too. Really, anything that has made significant impact, really has to be a compromise of both ends of the spectrum - or else by the time the other half was in power, the program would be over.

Could not have said it any better!!

That’s funny, considering the true ancestor for the internet was the ARPANET, which incidentally far predated any sort of networking system used by CERN. The first use for something ‘like’ the internet was to make a de-centralized network to connect various computers (at first 3, then hundreds) together without obstructions.
When CERN attempted, decades later, to modify a protocol FOR a pre-existing network, they came up with Hypertext. Incidentally, the internet existed LONG before hypertext–which is the basis of the http://WWW. The WWW and the Internet are not the same thing. The WWW is merely the graphical veneer that covers the topmost layer… a majority of the information travelling over the net does not even use it.

As for the ‘free’ part being a ‘liberal idea’, I can barely list the ways this statement is wrong. Are things ‘free’ by definition liberal? Is something liberal if it demands something be free? Assuming you mean ‘free access to the WWW is a liberal idea’, I’d have to say that’s a specious argument on several counts. To USE the WWW, you have to have access to the Internet. Unless you’re some big government-funded bigwig, you have to pay money to even access the thing, usually through some ISP or another. Indeed, you even have to pay for the connection somehow, whether cable or DSL, through whatever company has made the infrastructure. Also, what do you consider all the other forms of information distribution that don’t access the WWW to be? Pay-for-Packet? The only ‘reasons’ the WWW that CERN instituted is free is because it’s darn near impossible to find a way to charge money for it, the scientists were likely government funded and not running their own company, and the fact they were using someone ELSE’s packet technology (TCP/IP was not their baby, and was already in use) to adapt to using the same Internet that other nations (ie: the USA) already used.

Flippin’ idiots.

JMJ