Glasgow has been burned. Londonistan almost joined them…again. Bali has been leveled, Madrid sent adrift, and the Holy City of New York has its version of the Acropolis, against the wishes of 3000 innocent victims. As for Israel, what New York calls 9/11, Israel refers to as Tuesday…and Wednesday…and Thursday.
Yet San Francisco style anti-war protesters want us to pull out of Iraq, end all war, and stop imposing American imperialism on a world that just wants to be left alone to live in peace. Until San Francisco is bombed, they will not understand…anything.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/28/nancy-pelosi-defends-san-francisco-valuessilent-on-sfs-bloody-sanctuary-legacy/
I want to make it crystal clear that I am not wishing San Francisco get firebombed. It would not be fair to the 12 to 14 republicans who would be collateral damage. More importantly, I fiercely disagree with liberals, but I do not want them to die. I think they are hopelessly misguided, but the reason I want to defeat their world view is because I want them to live…and I want to be alive myself. I try to defeat their world view so that they can live in peace. Wrong and free and alive is better than wrong and dead.
However, I am out of ways to try and convince the left that World War III is upon us. Nobody wanted this fight. The left sees “neocons” as guys who sit up at night having slumber parties, telling ghost stories, and planning how to defeat the bogeymen hiding under the bed. What the neocons represent are people who see that in this case the bogeymen are real, and we fight them because they want to fight.
As Tony Blair brilliantly explained, terrorist attacks took place in the United States long before George W. Bush ever took office. 9/11 was years in the planning. As Rudy Giuliani crystallized in one of the best speeches of my lifetime (at the 2004 republican convention), terrorism has been going on unchecked since the 1970s, when, according to my calculations, George W. Bush was in college.
I may use humor, occasionally moderately effectively, but these issues are life and death matters. A liberal is often described as a conservative that has yet to be mugged. Well San Francisco cannot understand what London and Glasgow are experiencing. They cannot grasp Madrid or Bali. Living in the same nation as New York City does not mean they get it. It is an unimaginable horror, in the same way many cities in the world that have never had an Earthquake cannot understand what San Francisco went through in 1989.
The difference is Earthquakes are acts of God, and unpreventable. We can prepare for them, but not stop them. Terrorist attacks are continued by mortals. They may act in the name of a flawed concept of God, but they are not God. All mortals are exactly that…mortal. Yes, there are a lot of terrorists, but the answer is to go after every single one of them. As President Bush rightly stated, it includes those who harbor them as well.
Pulling out of Iraq is immoral, but liberals will debate that. It is dangerous, and that should be beyond rational dispute. It will not stop the terrorists. Terrorists stop when they are killed. They cannot be reasoned with. They do not value money. They are willing to die for their beliefs, leaving negotiation as an impossibility. When one does not value human life, they cannot be blackmailed. They have nothing to lose.
The left has to understand that George W. Bush, whatever they think of him, does not return their vitriol. He does not want them to die. He wants all Americans to live freely and peacefully, because that is his job. If San Francisco was bombed, the President would be horrified. This is because he understands his opponents are human beings. The enemy are the terrorists.
Dick Cheney and the neocons are not the bad guys. The bad guys are Osama, Saddam, Hamas, Hezbollah, Armageddonijad, Assad, etc. They want to kill us. They tell us this. They then go out and carry out their promises.
The American left needs to force itself to understand that peace cannot be declared unilaterally. The left can cut off funds for the Iraq War, but they cannot cut off funds for the terrorists. They cannot make the terrorists stop fighting. Self defense killing is not murder. The President has an obligation to protect America, and yes, that means in today’s global world, that fight extends beyond America’s physical parameters.
I want to live in a world where San Francisco liberals have a right to protest loudly and proudly. However, the world will not be safe if their words turn into political actions. Those actions could lead to short term political gain, such as a Presidential victory in an election. However, it will lead to massive defeats in the forms of dead human beings if our cities get firebombed. It happened in New York City. This is not hypothetical theory up for debate, such as global warming or embryonic stem cell research. This is a horror that has already happened. It is still happening, in front of our eyes. Those eyes must remain wide open, with the ability to avert those eyes as dead as the 3000 American innocents of September 11th, 2001.
I asked scholar Daniel Pipes of the Middle East Forum, one of the world’s foremost experts on radical Islam, what it would take to get Hollywood liberals like Barbra Streisand to understand the struggle we face. Mr. Pipes, not one for sugarcoating the matter, calmly replied “more deaths…many more deaths on a massive scale.”
I will again emphasize that I do not want this. I am also willing to concede that liberals do not want American cities to get firebombed. I do not think that they hate America. Some of them do not even hate republicans, although they do for the most part despise conservatives and President Bush. This is tragic, because hatred is a poison that destroys the insides of those who proffer it and receive it.
I do not despise the left. I do believe that their solutions are fundamentally flawed, because they require behavior patters that our true enemies simply refuse to engage in. Their ideals are fine. They are just unenforceable. We can prevent America from ever going to war again, but we cannot make the Islamists adopt a peaceful stance. They want to kill us, and we have to vigorously defend ourselves.
What would make the world safer is if leftists from San Francisco and Seattle to Boston would take the rage they currently have directed at George W. Bush, timber companies, oil companies, fur coat manufacturers, and drug companies that test on animals, and redirect it towards terrorists.
They need to hate terrorists with a burning passion. Burning is what is happening now. Cities around the world are on fire. Fighting fire with fire is truer today than ever.
I pray for world peace, but am prepared for all out war. World War III is happening now. We did not ask for it, but we can only make it go away by winning. If we lose, we all die. I pray that San Francisco liberals eventually find a way to love their own city more than they hate conservative republicans.
We need to let liberal democrats speak loudly, but never implement their solutions. Conservative republicans are prepared for the necessary evil of war, and pray that liberals will join us in the fight to save all of our lives.
eric
mullah cimoc say each day more ameriki google: mighty wurlitzer +cia learning usa not free press. this why society destroy, the abortion kill of baby and woman take LBT (low back tattoo) full slut.
then
to google: robert maxwell +mossad
then ameriki become the free and destroy all israeli intel op in usa and the punish all spy.
especially investigation william kristol and weekly standard own by him rupert murodch
Conservative Republicans and Liberal Democrats alike know that blindly rushing into a situation without looking things over and planning likely results of actions is a good way to create more problems than are solved. Did you never wonder why Rumsfeld hid the 1999 War Game for Iraq from the military planners and public ?
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB207/index.htm is educational.
Eric,
“I pray for world peace, but am prepared for all out war. World War III is happening now. We did not ask for it, but we can only make it go away by winning. If we lose, we all die. I pray that San Francisco liberals eventually find a way to love their own city more than they hate conservative republicans.”
I agree wit your comment above. We are in a long term protracted WWIII. I am sorry that the left will only recognize it when there is a quantum increase in death and destruction in the USA such as Daniel Pipes says…………steve
When I first had the pleasure of speaking to you I mentioned how frustrated I was with some freinds I was debating on a liberal blog. Since then I’ve come to beleive that liberal views are almost as dangerous as terrorism itself. I appreciate that these guys are all about making sure everyone in the world is happy. The thought that they actually beleive that this happiness should be extended to anyone no matter what or who they are is driving me away.
The moonbats { as you call them} and I have got some cool things going on for sick kids and couple small charities. And I would hate to distance myself from them only because I really want to see these charitable projects take off. But some of the authors articles on this site are starting to freak me out. Its gotten to the point now where I feel pretty much feel like you.
These guys just dont get it. And you were right in saying you dont waste your time on people that are entrenched. These guys are not persuadable.
I think my breaking point was when they started defending and glamorizing Che Guevarra and Hugo Chavez. Is this kind of crap just a cry for attention? Or is it really stylish to go against any sliver of common sense? Trying to find some common ground on the war and immigration has proven useless.
These guys could have a Katusha rocket up there ass and they would be worried about the moral implications of pulling it out and what it would do the enviroment.
Great piece, made my day.
So much for Edwards’s “Bumper Sticker Slogan.”
Once the suicide bombers start in America again, the left will just blame it on Bush, while figuring out a way to apologize and wave their white flags.
The bombers from Amerika are all over the Middle East. WTF makes you think the results are of going all over the planet with military forces are going to be ? It makes targets of American servicepeople and incites a desperate rage to strike back – which is mostly frustrated. But not all the time.
Whats up with Opit and Mullah ?
Can these guys be traced ?
These guys are freaking me out.
*claps enthusiastically*
I find it’s like trying to explain why we have such tense relations with Iran to those who didn’t live through the Hostage Crisis. You just have to have the experience to fully understand.
What the heck? That was a spambot I assume? WordPress does allow you to see the IPs of posters, but he could be on a proxy.
Anyway, no argument with the main point of this entry I guess. You really talked to Daniel Pipes?
Eric, even a a bombing in the City by the Bay will not change the mindset there. If anything, it will crystalize their naive and delusional belief that WE are the cause of all the misfortune that may befall us. If San Francisco gets attacked, you can be sure that it will be blamed on the nazi/fascist/totalitarian/fascist/imperialist George W. Bush. He could cure cancer and the headline in the San Francisco the next day would be “Bush deliberately puts thousands of cancer researchers out of work!!”
[…] of The Tygrrrr Express has penned a strong essay on our appeasers at home, and pulls no punches. That is your required […]
I agree and have said before that until something big happens on our shores this was will not be recognized as agression on freedom. Terrorist (radical muslim, mainly) want to attack, as their dogma dictates, us infidales till we are exterminated.
Alexis -onlyinamerica.wordpress.com
Opit,
Step AWAY from the drugs.
And your cute little affectation of America with a ‘k’ was big in Russia when the Bolsheviks came to town.
Mullah,
It looks like you stepped away from the VERBS. Subject and verb is as important to us as a checkered keffiyeh is to you.
Just no kool aid.
I spend my time looking at news – but occasionally I’ll see a comment I feel so asinine it begs rebuttal.
9/11 was the message to the U.S. if the tale of bin Laden is to be believed : there are enough contrary stories it gets as bad as ufology trying to get at the truth.
Quick and dirty. The U.S. spends more money all by itself on military than everybody else on the planet combined. It’s a shitty sales program unless your idea of making friends and influencing people is to scare the hell out of them – in which case it’s a big planet.
Contrary to accepted U.S. opinion. the rest of the world does not see why armed forces should be deployed God-knows-where-or-when in a grand shoot-em-up because of whatever pretext is sold the U.S. public as flavour of the day. Some getting pissed off enough by this abuse to send a ‘cease-and-desist’ notice where it will in fact get some attention is pretty much inevitable.
Any modern country has a lot of infrastructure and chemicals that are made to order to be fucked up. At the same time the idea of a trading nation requires openness to implement – a requirement contrary to lockdown.
Security seems to think it can MsGyver itself into a safety solution. The results of this attitude aren’t likely to be pretty.
“The U.S. spends more money all by itself on military than everybody else on the planet combined. ”
Even if that were true (source please?), that’s only because everybody else on the planet combined expects the US to come in and save their asses when the shit hits the fan.
Thanks Emily.
You’d think that was an odd statement which wasn’t credible. I didn’t look hard to find this – it was posted just today
http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2007/07/02/review-article-the-worldwide-network-of-us-military-bases-by-prof-jules-dufour/
Opit,
After reading your so-called evidence, I’m still waiting for proof supporting your statement:
“The U.S. spends more money all by itself on military than everybody else on the planet combined.”
You referenced a BLOG, so what! I also went to the hyperlink within the blog, there was nothing straightforward there either.
So puddin’head, let me help you:
http://www.truthandpolitics.org/military-relative-size.php#gdp-graph
Don’t let the facts get in your way.
Did you happen to notice the timeline for that report ?
Yes I did.
Did you notice how POOR AT MATH you are? We struck Baghdad on March 20, 2003. For the entire year of 2003, we spent 3.7% of GDP.
Here is a more recent chart (#1): http://www.heritage.org/Research/features/issues/issuearea/Defense.cfm
By 2005, it had increased to a RIDICULOUSLY LOW 3.9% of GDP. As I said before, step away from the meds.
I spend most of my life correcting people like you- people who are absolutely clueless. If you are an anencephalic, then I’ve been a bit harsh- and I do apologize.
The bombers from Amerika are all over the Middle East. WTF makes you think the results are of going all over the planet with military forces are going to be ? It makes targets of American servicepeople and incites a desperate rage to strike back – which is mostly frustrated. But not all the time.
As opposed to the way things were BEFORE we invaded Iraq, when noone raged against us.
Except, of course, the U.S.S. Cole.
And the embassy bombings.
And WTC 1.
and 9/11
America’s easy to hate because we’re so visible. Even when we try to play nice, people still hate us.
Oderint dum metuant.
Since you’re so clever with figures – which I can’t be bothered with at the moment as I’m busy – maybe you’ve a snappy rejoinder for this observation: when you put armed forces in lands far from home and send them out to play with ordnance, is there a greater or lesser chance of them getting hurt ? It’s nice to have a plan when doing this. The usual is hit and run for the simple reason that there is no particular reason to make a target of oneself.
[…] http://blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/until-san-francisco-gets-bombed-they-will-not-understan… […]
obviously you know nothing about the 3/11 madrid attacks.
24 of the 29 alleged prepetrators were informers and/or controlled by the Spanish Police, Civil Guard and C.N.I. (“National Center of Intelligence”) before the attacks.
This is FACT. Pretty much undisputed in Spain. Even, or especially, the conservative factions in Spain believe that it was perpetrated by the Spanish government.
And if 3/11 is admittedly so, what about 9/11?
you people are such mindless nation-builders. your suburban american version of the world is superior to all others, without question. you probably buy the whole “they hate us for our freedoms” line.
no, they hate us for our meddling and imperialistic policies that ram the “american version” of the world down their throats. a cornered cat will always fight. take a look in the mirror.